ok, to be fair, they did write new editorials (http://www.thehoya.com/opinion) and one is on the GUSA fiasco.

however, unless their printer is seriously messed up (and I believe they use Silver Communications, which has never given The Voice this kind of trouble), it seems to definitely be an instance of their sending the wrong PDF. definitely an indication of lack of attention to details (or can we even describe an incorrect editorial page as a detail?). not the type of people we want publishing our “newspaper of record.”

let’s not jump to conclusions. dwulet? beuller? what happened over there?

those little girls are adorable.

How quickly The The Voice forgets. We all make mistakes. Molly, you have a great writing style, but it reeks of a major inferiority complex.

“…reemphasizes that Hoya writers were too lazy on Monday night to write an editorial about the GUSA election snafu, even though they ran a news article about it. Oh Hoya”

That’s inaccurate and unfair. After all, The Voice publishes once a week and you are calling The Hoya opinion staff lazy? It was obvious a pdf mishap. Your attempt to be witty only highlights the fact that you are majorly uninformed. And when was the last time I heard of someone reading The Voice for their editorials (or just reading them, period) anyway? I’m pretty sure the answer would be: never.

I do enjoy the blog, though. It is the one thing you which you manage to beat The Hoya. At least you have that to hold on to. Next time, you might want to rise above the pettiness.

It’s absolutely accurate to call it lazy. The timestamp alters every time they update Courtney Larios’ article, so I can’t be sure, but if my memory is correct, they published it before midnight. That means they had the necessary reporting at their disposal to write an editorial for their Tuesday edition instead of waiting for the Friday edition, and that they had plenty of time to get a consensus from their editorial board to changeup the roster.

Instead, they opted to run an editorial about the IRC losing its funding—which was at least two issues old. If the Hoya eds are indeed student’s go-tos, as you’re suggesting, then don’t you think the onus is on them to make sure their ed page is responsive enough to deserve its influence?

As for publishing once a week it’s more complicated than you suggest–we can’t exactly say, “Hey,we’re feeling motivated and newsy and don’t have a lot of work to do this week–let’s put out an issue on Tuesday, too!” I’m glad you follow the blog, but I would hope that the reporting in our weekly print is thorough enough to indicate that on the days we’re not PDFing, we’re not lazing, either.

Actually, The Hoya was not too lazy to write editorials.

http://www.thehoya.com/node/18157

The The Voice’s blog shot from the hip on this one — and missed.
But I do commend you, your blog is, by far, the best part of your paper.

Don’t you mean our blog is the best part of your paper?

http://www.thehoya.com/node/18128 and http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/02/03/georgetown-university-cat-killer-the-burleith-listservs-horrible-discovery/

and http://www.thehoya.com/node/17773 and http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/02/03/georgetown-anc-wrapup-hydrant-woes-and-apples-to-apple-stores/#more-1671

Oh, those insufferable Hoya fanboys always defending their holy publication! Wait.

Well, I have to agree, though. This exhibits the kind of inferiority complex that is usually found only on the Heckler blog, and you selfishly denied us an epic culmination to our recent attacks against the Hoya Ed Board.

We have zero inferiority complex. Why would we, when we consistently win more Bunn journalism awards than The Hoya?

Also, it’s downright wrong to call us lazy because we publish once a week. We’re a weekly newsmagazine. Perhaps you should call The Hoya lazy, considering many college newspapers publish daily.

Oh my, an organization getting lambasted by newspapers and students because it screws up in a manner that was not its fault and was completely out of its control?

Hmmm… sounds familiar.

To Hoya: How’s it like when the shoe’s on the other foot?

Good point, GUSA: everyone is happier when you’re the object of affectionate exasperation.

fiore the lady isn’t saying you didn’t write and editorial, she’s saying you guys are a bunch of lazy kindergarteners for waiting til friday instead of getting the first word. shot from the hip? i dont think so!

while I agree that the Hoya editorials have been hilariously terrible this semester…it’s not really our place to put stuff like this on the blog.

Anyone who actually reads the Hoya will realize this anyway and we don’t come off like assholes with an inferiority complex.

What was hilariously terrible was this wholly innacurate blog post.
Agree to disagree, but hypercritical posts like this DO make The The Voice come off as whiny and having an inferiority complex.

peace,
Fiore

Fiore,
I was agreeing with you that in this instance we DO come off as whiny and having an inferiority complex, which is unfortunate.

we shouldnt have posted this, but criticism is really the only way to get better – so try not to be so defensive and use the criticism to improve the quality of your paper.

I’ll step out of the way after this, but my intention in posting this wasn’t first and foremost to jab at the Hoya. Not that I didn’t enjoy myself.

It’s one of those news bits that straddled the line between Twitter and blog, and I chose to blog because: 1) once we found out what had gone wrong (Dwulet’s letter) it was nice to have all the information in one place and 2) you’re right Travs, those girls are just so cute!

Printers mess up. To pre-emptively attack the Hoya for having a printing error is stupid, and it reveals the inferiority complex the Voice has been crippled by for decades.

As for being lazy, some papers at larger universities do print daily. Others don’t. Hardly any papers–professional or not–write editorials on breaking news stories. It’s impracticable and usually not smart to pass judgment on breaking stories.

The Voice would be well served by taking a page out of the Hoya editorial board’s book. And stop writing idiotic, inaccurate editorials expressing outrage at non-issues. (ahem, http://www.georgetownvoice.com/2009/02/12/georgetown-students-earn-their-day/). Hoya editorials have been surprisingly good of late.

Good blog though–maybe you should consider dropping the paper and sticking to what you’re (for the most part) good at.

SFS 07

I’m as sick of this as everyone, but alum, you’ll notice that the post actually doesn’t attack the Hoya for the printing error–it disses them for not writing a GUSA editorial right when they had the news.

What’re the errors in the Georgetown Day editorial?

I think what alum was saying was that it was a stupid editorial because it was about Georgetown Day, which although it is a blast is not something worth dedicating time too. Secondly, if The Hoya had run an editorial for Tuesday’s edition with evidence about the GUSA mishap still coming in it would have been unable to make an honest and legitimate argument and would have lowered itself to the level of journalistic integirty present at The Voice

Hunter — agreed. Glad to hear it was a printer problem, but even if it was a staff error, I know none of the Voice section editors on here have ever put the wrong dates on their pages, etc. Right?

Here’s a thought: how about everyone actually posts their FULL name when they make a comment so this thread doesn’t turn into a string of anonymous bashing, okay? As David Gregory astutely pointed out a couple days ago, this is a dehumanizing medium of communication, and at the very least we could identify ourselves and try to be civil. I bet those girls in the picture play nice.

Please, there’s nothing more humanizing than a good blog comment.

Everyone, there’s a Moral Kombat discussion in another thread. Do it….

jeez, traviss, what’s with you and those girls in the picture?

is there something i should know?

I find it ironic that you write about a screw-up of The Hoya’s that wasn’t their fault, and, in the process, you made an even more grave mistake. At least The Hoya is accurate…