Being a Personal Assistant: If it’s good enough for Anne Hathaway, it’s good enough for you!

Depressing job market got you down?  Never fear, your fellow Hoya is here to help!

In what is easily the most absurd job posting ever to be put up on the Student Employment Office website, it appears one Georgetown sophomore is already so busy he feels the need to hire his own personal assistant.

You see, he may not even be an upperclassman yet, but this guy has commitments—he’s a student and a “part time employee in the financial services industry”—and can’t be bogged down with mundane tasks like doing his own laundry.  That’s what a PA—who would work an hour per day, five days a week, and receive $12 per hour—is for!

As my PA you will receive an email once a day by 9:00 am with a task list for that day and a time estimate for each task. Important tasks will be bolded on the list and must be done that day (even though everything on the list should theoretically be finished on a daily basis) …

PA example tasks -Organize closet -make bed -Drop off / pick up dry cleaning -Drop me off / pick me up from work -Do laundry -Fill up gas tank -bring car for servicing -schedule appointment for haircut -Pay parking tickets -manage electronic accounts -shopping and running errands -other random tasks.

Preference will be given to applicants who are comfortable with city driving (car will be provided) and who are available when I need to be picked up and dropped off for work. Preference will also be given to Georgetown undergrads for convenience.

Read the full job posting after the jump!

Job Description:

I am a Georgetown undergrad student and part time employee in the financial services industry. I am looking for someone to take care some of my everyday tasks for 1 hr a day, 5 hrs/ week, $12/hr. I live on campus which would make things very easy convenient for a Georgetown student. The normal pay per week will be $60 ($300/month), even though on occasion it will be possible to work additional hours and/or receive bonuses at my discretion.

The schedule is completely flexible because I do not need to be around when you do the work. You can even spread it out over the course of the day. As my PA you will receive an email once a day by 9:00 am with a task list for that day and a time estimate for each task. Important tasks will be bolded on the list and must be done that day (even though everything on the list should theoretically be finished on a daily basis). At the end of the day you will send me an email telling me what tasks are incomplete or that all tasks have been completed.

Tasks such as doing laundry that involve a lot of waiting around (time when you could be doing other tasks or doing your own stuff) will be counted for the approximate amount of time it would take to do the labor involved. For instance, laundry will be counted for half an hour even though a laundry cycle takes 1.5 hrs to complete.

Job Requirements:

PA example tasks -Organize closet -make bed -Drop off / pick up dry cleaning -Drop me off / pick me up from work -Do laundry -Fill up gas tank -bring car for servicing -schedule appointment for haircut -Pay parking tickets -manage electronic accounts -shopping and running errands -other random tasks.

Preference will be given to applicants who are comfortable with city driving (car will be provided) and who are available when I need to be picked up and dropped off for work. Preference will also be given to Georgetown undergrads for convenience.

Available Openings: 1

Hours: 3.0 to 7.0 hours per week

Compensation: $10.00/hour to $12.00/hour, Occasional Bonuses

Start Date: Immediately

End Date: End of School Year

Time Frame: Academic Year

245 Responses to “Georgetown sophomore seeks personal assistant, takes premature self-importance to whole new level”
  1. “Occasional Bonuses”

  2. That is just sad. And incredible.

    Mr. Cooper (it’s amazing what the directory can tell you) sure has a high sense of self. I wonder if he’s in Ivy Plus.

  3. What. A. Tool.

  4. Dear Mr. Cooper,

    You are a douche.

    Sincerely,

    Hoya

  5. Not Greg Monroe says:

    Example tasks: organize closet, make bed.– Wipe ass, flush toilet as well?

    I wonder if his part-time job “in the financial services industry” is a bank teller position.

  6. Don’t everyone jump to conclusions. This could be the next Driving Miss Daisy. Sure, this student and his driver may come from different walks of life, but they can learn so much from one another. The PA can teach this guy how to do his own laundry, and this guy can teach his PA how to rack up dozens and dozens of parking tickets. In the end, they’ll realize how much we all have in common as human beings. I’m writing the screenplay now.

    I have to say, though, this is not the most absurd listing I’ve seen on that site. That title goes to the man asking for someone to take his son on a long-planned fishing trip to Ocean City that suddenly conflicted with his schedule.

  7. I have the urge to apply just so I can meet this guy and call him a douche in person.

  8. I hope Mr. Cooper gets hit by a bus.

  9. Fact Checker says:

    I’m not sure it’s legal to pay someone for 30 minutes to do your laundry when they must commit 90 minutes to do the job. Solidarity should get in on this.

  10. Reinforcing the Georgetown stereotype- the pampered princelings are alive and well.

  11. BAHAHAHA Think of how many “hours” it took him to write such a detailed list. He could have done 1/3 of his laundry credits. Fuck yourself.

  12. public school says:

    This is what makes people think that everyone at Georgetown is douchey. Because apparently there are people who would hire a personal assistant to blow their own nose!

  13. Thomas Niskanen says:

    I know this kid. He’s MSB. Albeit that the ad is ridiculous, you guys are merciless. How do you know this isn’t a false ad? However, knowing the kid personally, I don’t think it is fake.

    That said, he lives in the area, and I wonder why his parents don’t help him out instead.

  14. A student in the MSB should probably realize that paying someone for 30 minutes when a task requires an hour and a half of a person’s presence at his job his not a particularly brilliant idea. If the kid wants to pay someone to make his bed, whatever. But he should at least actually PAY the person.

  15. [...] taking the wrong approach – I just needed a personal assistant. One Georgetown University student recently posted an ad on the school’s employment board. In the ad, the sophomore (!) listed the qualifications required for his assistant: As my PA you [...]

  16. seeing this type of douchebaggery makes me so glad i went to a state school. fuckers like this are the ones who ruined our economy with their inflated egos and salaries at bear sterns, lehmans, aig, etc…

    I hope his “part-time financial service job” (READ: intern) collapses.

  17. “A student in the MSB should probably realize that paying someone for 30 minutes when a task requires an hour and a half of a person’s presence at his job his not a particularly brilliant idea. If the kid wants to pay someone to make his bed, whatever. But he should at least actually PAY the person.”

    You’re naïve. From a business perspective, it *is* a brilliant idea to pay people as little as you can get away with. It’s called capitalism.

  18. His LinkedIn profile makes this story so much better…

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/charles-cooper/13/4ab/137

  19. i’m pretty sure posting a job for a personal assistant, ridiculous though it may seem, is not grounds for personal attack. Fridays are better spent not ripping some kid apart.

  20. Cooper went to Landon, known in DC circles as the all-boys independent school for dumb jocks.

  21. Hey anonymous, you ever met Cooper? No, don’t knock the reputation of the finest school in the DC area over a kid that basically went to St. Albans

  22. Yeah this is called specialization. Why do we rip this sort of thing when we essentially contract with “personal assistants” on a daily basis. I mean, I have a tutor (my professors), a personal clothes-washer (laundry machines), personal food producer (Safeway), personal actors (mass media tv). The kid is only taking things 1 step further by further outsourcing tasks he would rather pay someone else to do. What makes it more appealing him him to do the stuff himself and keep a stack of money?

  23. In a group project last year with cooper says:

    Yep everyone’s about right…I was in a group project with him last year. Writes on a 5th grade level. Definitely either knew someone here to get in or paid the school off. Dumb tool.

  24. One of the stupidest things about this that’s kind of underlooked is how ridiculously underpaid this position is. You’d think an MSB student would know what market rates for this sort of thing are, at least…. Who is going to be your bitch for $60 a week? He’s really underestimating the time it takes to do stuff (see – laundry) and the inconvenience. It’s one thing to go sit at a desk in an office two feet from your dorm room for $10/hour – it’s another to be shlepping across town every day. You can make way more sitting in a chair being a student guard doing hardly anything.

  25. Wait…when did $60/week = $300/month?

  26. That is actually a pretty good question. I guess the “occasional bonuses” account for the extra 60?

  27. Christopher says:

    What is this, JuicyCampus? Sure it’s dumb to ask some other student to do your personal business, and yes, I’m glad I know how to do my own laundry and make my own bed. I don’t, however, think this needs to become a character assassination.

  28. Charley is an awesome kid. He’s way better than the majority of kids who write for the voice…they’re the biggest spitfucks at georgetown.

  29. ihatepoorpeople says:

    I disagree – he’s a self absorbed prick.

  30. I disagree – for someone’s name being “ihatepoorpeople,” i’d say you’re a self absorbed prick.

  31. here’s a link to his facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/coopster301?ref=search&sid=505480870.1412694838..1

    now you can give him a high-5 the next time you see him around campus.

  32. Seriously, is this necessary? Fine, he made a stupid post, but he is a good kid, and there is no need to do this character bashing. Find something better to do with your time and grow up, get a life, and get a job.

    You guys do realize that by making such a huge effort to embarrass this kid you embarrass yourself by showing that you have nothing better to do than to search the internet for his information. He is a good kid, people make mistakes, and frankly this didn’t even effect anyone so I don’t know why you care.

    I have read about several character assassinations in university newspapers, this is ridiculous.

  33. “really” is probably Charles Cooper. In response to his comments, it does effect everyone on campus. People like this, with their sense of entitlement and general douche bag mentality, are all too common in our community. This attitude towards others permeates all of their social interactions around campus and makes Georgetown a tedious place to live and study. It’s about time the normal students around here say “enough” and call them out on their poor behavior. What a prick. Good job Voice!!

  34. Hoyasaxa you need to get a life and worry about yourself. If you don’t like the people at Georgetown transfer. You don’t have to hang out with charlie if you don’t want to. But there really is no need to drag someone through the dirt over a simple job posting. Join a cause thats worth the effort.

  35. I think you have it backwards FX – if the campus newspaper is calling you out for douche bag behavior, you’re probably the odd man out around here, not hoyasaxa. Just a thought…

  36. It’s reassuring that people like this usually don’t have many friends.

  37. What an assclown!!

  38. This story has been sent out over the listservs of like half the clubs I’m in at Georgetown. The ass hole is famous!

  39. Yeah that’s how I found out. It’s funny how nobody feels bad for him at all.

  40. Charlie, you’re now about as famous (and popular) as the kid who was caught stealing an ipod at a party last year.

  41. charlie bit me says:

    i’m gonna be charlie cooper for halloween. i will stuff my pockets with parking tickets and throw my dirty laundry at young children.

  42. not only does this kid make me wanna vom, but i wanna vommit on him. the things i think should be done to him are somewhat unorthodox so i wont mention them here. but i was told about this from a friend but i do believe this kid needs to realize how much of a self-absorbed tool he is. I dont care if he’s the nicest guy around campus, that will NOT take away from the fact that he is a tool and i think everyone has the right to bash his character for that job post. Seriously, you write a job post like that, you deserve EVERYTHING that comes ur way. that is all.

  43. im appalled that ppl. are actually defending him. Like actual HUMAN BEINGS are defending this asshole? Really. I have lost every respect for u ppl. as human beings. Ur as much as low lives as this Mr. Cooper over here…wow…Not only am i embarrassed to be going to school wit this kid, but im embarrassed to be of the same species as u ppl. Ewww! what has this world turned into?!?

  44. People like this act so indignant when somebody finally catches them with their pants down and exposes their true character to the world. What a disgusting joke.

  45. Alright, look. I will definitely admit that this ad is ridiculous and I can tell you that people who feel entitled like that seriously rub me the wrong way. That being said, there are many ways in which Georgetown students act in this self-proclaimed “I’m hot shit so wipe my ass for me” sort of way, it’s just that this particular instance was in writing and was made more blantant and public for the campus-wide community to observe and scrutinize. I am not going to sit here and defend the connotations of this ad, but I am going to say that people who are making these kind of hurtful comments should take the time to ask themselves whether they really think they look like bigger people. I am not close with Charlie but I happen to know him, and on a basic level he is not a bad or malicious person and I am sure that all of you have done much worse than this, it just isn’t on the internet for everyone to see and criticize you for.

  46. i heard the people who moderate this blog rape kittens. KITTENS!!!

    NOW, who is worse human being?

    Answer: VOICE BLOGGERS

    FUCK THEM ALL, THE WORLD WOULD BE SUCH A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT THIS SHITBLOG.

  47. Hello,

    As a senior in the ROTC, it saddens me to see that i’m dedicating 8 years (even my life) to protecting people’s right to free speech and press, specifically when they use it to maliciously and conscientiously berate and harass someone they don’t even know and hide behind anonymous user names. If this really bothers you that much that why don’t you use your real name rather than be cowards who hide behind a fake name to make yourselves feel taller. You’re all disgusting human beings.

  48. Wow, the comments on the post are getting a little ridiculous -

    Sure the kid made a mistake, but I dont think it reveals anything as important as his “true character”…

    Hopefully he will take this as an opportunity to step back a gain a little perspective, laugh at himself a little and move on. That is exactly what the campus is going to do.

  49. I don’t understand why posting an advertisement in the hope of reducing the level of annoyance in one’s life is abhorrent to all of you. I have absolutely no idea who this kid is but I can tell you for sure that we can boil his situation down to a clear trade between time and money. He’d rather have more time than have more money.

    HE IS GOING TO BE RICH EITHER WAY. IF HE DOESNT HIRE A PERSONAL ASSISTANT HE WONT BE GIVING THE MONEY TO CHARITY INSTEAD – TRUST ME. WHY IS IT WRONG FOR HIM TO TRY TO HIRE A PERSONAL ASSISTANT (WHO IS ALSO MADE BETTER OFF FROM THE TRADE) AND NOT WRONG FOR HIM TO WASTE HIS TIME, KEEP THE MONEY AND SPEND THE CASH ON SOMETHING THAT GIVES HIM LIMITED UTILITY?

  50. To the author of this article, those who have commented,

    I just want to say, we are all here with whatever resources we have to maximize our time at Georgetown. One student is choosing to do that with the resources he has, and I am ashamed to be a part of a community that would blatantly attack and ostracize someone on an incredibly subjective judgment.
    I hope he doesn’t read your comments because he is busy building his resume, working hard, and using his time in accordance with its value. I hope you all find the ways with all of the resources, however extensive or limited they may be (and by being here we all have extensive resources beyond the monetary), to maximize your time here, and to value that time in light of the incredible doors we have available as students at a great university. Its time to cease ridiculing someone for valuating their time in what is probably remarkably mature for a sophomore in college to recognize and move forward with.

    If I had the money, and the confidence that I was using my time wisely enough to need to delegate it, I would do the same.

  51. There is literally no possible way a decent human being could have written that ad. The broseph is a copy-boy at a Morgan Stanley branch office and he’s already acting like he’s Lloyd Blankfein. Good luck getting a real job in this economy ass-hat!

  52. So I wonder now do the people at the voice feel better about themselves now. Honestly the voice seems to want to expose a fellow student for being arrogant but they need only to look into a mirror. What kind of self-important arrogance do you think it takes in the first place to take a shot at someone like that without ever knowing the kid or his intent for making the job offer. Did you ever call Charlie and ask him about the job? Did you ask if it was okay to publicly trash his name like this? Do you even know the kid? My guess is probably not. So instead of doing the work and getting your story right you just felt entitled to write what you pleased and potentially hurt the reputation of someone you do not know and who did not deserve it. I hope that posting this really made you feel better Juliana. Also to all of the repliers above me I hope your egos feel stroked now that you were able to make yourself think you were better than someone else. You know what this article was right there are arrogant people at Georgetown and even worse they have their own blogs.

  53. Actually if you read the post you’ll there is nothing written calling the student arrogant. Calling the student arrogant – among other things – is what most of these 52 commenters have done. They came to their own conclusions, and the Voice didn’t do it for them.

  54. Actually if you read the post you’ll there is nothing written calling the student arrogant. Calling the student arrogant – among other things – is what most of these 52 commenters have done. They came to their own conclusions, and the Voice didn’t do it for them.

  55. Well I guess maybe I took too much creative liberty by translating the part of the title that says “premature self-importance” as meaning arrogant (call me crazy) in addition to the language of the article itself which does no favors to Charlie. All in all I would say that the author definitely drew some conclusions, ones I think were rather undeserved.

  56. sorry charlie says:

    give the kid a break.. this hype is getting ridiculous. who cares if he wants to hire a personal assistant? it will not affect you in any way, shape, or form. think what you want about it, but don’t post obnoxious and hurtful messages on a blog– this is a real person, a fellow hoya who wants to make better use of his time here. we’re acting like we’re in middle school and it needs to stop.

  57. if you read carefully it’s pretty obvious that like half of the pro-charlie posts are him trying to take different angles to defend himself.

    this kid sucks and he deserves the blow back he’s getting. maybe he’ll put up another ad when he realizes he can’t get laid for free with his new douche reputation??

  58. any ladies on campus interested in some “occasional bonuses”??

  59. i’ll only pay you for how long it actually takes – no cuddling up the clock, bitches

  60. I find it amazing that people are so worked up about this. If this guy wants to pay someone $10-12 an hour to do jobs he could do himself. Honestly, this just sounds like capitalism to me.

  61. I bet all of these people who are lashing out at this kid have maids at home. The hypocrisy.

  62. Elvis Presley says:

    Poop.

  63. I don’t have a maid at home.

  64. i keep slaves in my backyard, but i paid good $$$ for them, so it’s okay. it’s just capitalism.

  65. Katie Cooper says:

    While his ad may be a little off-putting, he has a right to seek help as he is paying for someone’s time. It is up to the person who might respond (who needs the money) to negotiate. Certainly expecting someone to charge a half hour for work that takes 1.5 hours is wrong, but that can and should be negotiated.

    “Tasks such as doing laundry that involve a lot of waiting around (time when you could be doing other tasks or doing your own stuff) will be counted for the approximate amount of time it would take to do the labor involved. For instance, laundry will be counted for half an hour even though a laundry cycle takes 1.5 hrs to complete.”

    He’s wrong in that it’s not time the assistant can be doing their own stuff. The assistant can do other things he requires but it is not their own time.

    Stop calling him a douchebag and analyse the job from a business perspective. From both sides. That will teach you all what it’s like in the “real world” as you put it.

  66. Nice of Katie Cooper to come to Charles’ defense. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence and they’re not, like, related or anything.

    Charles getting his big sister to come defend him on the mean ol’ blog…awesome.

  67. yeah, right, Mom.

  68. enough people says:

    At $10/hr you’re telling me I could make a whopping FIVE DOLLARS to do this kid’s laundry?

    From a business perspective, this is brilliant for Charlie, assuming he is able to find some altruistic moron who hates making money and loves the smell of Douchbag at 9am. Everyday.

    What a smuck.

  69. “I bet all of these people who are lashing out at this kid have maids at home. ”

    Jesus, how out of touch are you, defenders of this guy??

  70. fact checker says:

    >> “I’m not sure it’s legal to pay someone for 30 minutes to do your laundry when they must commit 90 minutes to do the job. Solidarity should get in on this.”

    I love you, Fact Checker. <3 <3 <3

  71. enough people says:

    No reasonable person would take time out of their day to defend this ingrate unless they were his friend.

    Cooper the Pooper, you may have more success searching for an assistant in Cambodia where your offer is actually pretty competitive.

  72. And certainly Charles intends on paying all requisite employment taxes, I’m sure! As as assistant in the financial services industry, he won’t have any problems figuring out withholding, FICA, FUTA, labor & industries on the whopping $12 a hour his little bitch is earning.

  73. The people defending Cooper must be disgustingly pampered themselves or (most likely) they are actually one Mr. Cooper, trying to defend himself through multiple anonymous postings. Hey Cooper.

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  75. First, how many times has Charlie posted under pseudonyms getting all indignant about these comments? I’m counting at least half a dozen, based on writing style.

    Second, what seems to be lost in the singular voice of Charlie’s defensive posts is that this is far different from hiring household help when you’re an accomplished professional. This kid has an internship at a brokerage firm (is it even paid, I wonder?) and is basically saying he’s too good to do his laundry, but he’ll pay you, his fellow undergrad, a whopping five dollars to do it. Sorry, it takes ninety minutes, but while the machine is running you can iron his J. Crew dress shirts so that he looks spiffy when he’s fetching coffee at the office.

    People are not mocking Mr. Cooper for having the audacity to seek assistance. They’re mocking him for offering a ridiculously tiny amount for small, mundane chores that everyone else his age has to do for themselves when they move into a dorm. Mr. Cooper is not a moneyed professional whose time is far too valuable for everyday tasks. He’s a spoiled child who wants to play pretend by hiring someone at a pittance to do odd jobs and calling them a “personal assistant.” If Mr. Cooper were anywhere near busy or important enough to need an actual personal assistant, he wouldn’t be living in student housing and advertising for one on a campus board. But here’s a guy who clearly longs to drop in parties and mention his “personal assistant” will be picking him up later so he can drink. A guy who’d probably express his impatience at a slow checkout line at Safeway by loudly stating “My personal assistant is waiting outside!” Someone who wants to feel important on the cheap but can’t afford a REAL assistant to wash his socks and drive him to his internship and buy a birthday card for his mom.

    Actually, in retrospect, it is kind of sad. You come away wondering what’s so broken in this guy that he needs this sort of cheap pretend ego boost. Word to the wise, Charlie–if you want to play like you’re too important to be bothered, you should at least act like you can afford the help. I doubt I could tolerate this guy for ten minutes for sixty dollars, much less five hours a week (six and a half, I guess, with laundry.) He should take a good hard look at himself because every single critical comment on this blog, he earned.

  76. Hilarious @ 3:10: that’s “hey, coopster”, btw.

  77. Katie Cooper says:

    No, not related to Mr. Cooper at all.

    Reading all of the comments though, I’d say most of you are a little too emotional over this. It’s a business transaction. And this is a capitalist society. No one is forced to work for Mr. Cooper, under any circumstances or conditions. If, however, someone wants the job, that person can negotiate the salary and working conditions (the .5 hours versus 1.5 hours for the laundry) and should negotiate.

    Regarding the withholding, taxes, FICA, etc. Mr. Cooper can consider the assistant an independent contractor and negotiate the contract that way. Considering Mr. Cooper says that the time is flexilble and the person does not need to be at a place of employment (Mr. Cooper’s dorm room) during specific times, he fulfills the rules determining an independent contractor.

  78. sure he "has a right" to be a dbag says:

    …but anyone who has or ever has had to do their own laundry, or is more than a year out of college, or who didn’t go to a pampered private school, is going to be rightly annoyed by a freaking college sophomore acting like they’re too good for this. Sure, he can act however he wants to (within the law), but the ad is still totally douchey.

  79. As a graduate student who is pursing a real MBA from one of the more challenging schools out there and someone who has spent several years in the working world, I would advise Charlie to save his money for now.

    If he is not able to cope with the stress that accompanies Sophomore year and a part time job, he’s going to find it very difficult to live in the real world, with a full time job and he’s going to need all of that money so that he can purchase replacement clothes, sheets and cars for all of the sets that are dirty, unmade and unserviced.

    Assuming this ad is for real, I empathize with people’s anger. At my school, our typical week runs 12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week between class, workshops, career search tasks and case preparation. Somehow I’ve managed to keep my bed made, my apartment clean and my clothes washed. I even got my car’s oil changed last week.

    I’ve met many very impressive Sophomores who are so successful that they might actually require a PA. Typically, those people are driven enough to find ways to get it done without one. I don’t know Charlie, and perhaps $12 is coming out of his part time job salary, and if so, then it’s his hard earned money to spend however he likes. But if it’s not coming out of his salary, and you’re someone who is working hard, on your own, to get ahead in life, I think you are perfectly justified in feeling upset about this. It doesn’t appear as though Charlie is curing cancer or helping set up micro-finance in under developed countries. If he is, he should say so.

    Charlie – two words of serious advice: if you actually go through with this, have some security at your interviews, and also, there is a typo in your LinkedIn profile, bro.

  80. Dear Hoyas,

    I have to say, the job posting is a bit silly for the pay, but intriguing. I’m bit surprised that Georgetown can get this angry and emotional over this kid’s posting. The real world moves forward, and doesn’t get too bent out of shape over the small things…you have to be a bit more resilient, I’m guessing the rest of the campus has done so?

    I hope the whole community isn’t like that, because in your anger you folks represent a part of Georgetown as well. I would like to believe the brothers have taught you how to see things with a little less emotion and more logic. Perhaps bargaining with Charles would get you a better offer, did any of you think about that? A lot of folks out there looking for a job if they had the right attitude could seek more salary, don’t you do that in the real world?

    I’m not Charles, btw…and that is my real name. I wish you all the best this BB season. Save the energy for the games, use your head for everything else :)

    Rahul

  81. I’m really not sure what all the fuss is about. 10 years or so ago, when I was working my way through Princeton, I used to take odd jobs from a couple other students who were running startup businesses on the side, and so were scheduled too tight. It was usually a little more value-added than straight PA work (like proofreading ad copy or, in one case, proofing a book translation that the other student had done for a foreign professor), but yeah, sometimes it was laundry/basic organizational stuff. Frankly, it paid better than my dining hall job–in cash–and it was in the dorm and not on a fixed schedule, so it was time efficient for me as well. Good deal for me (I needed the money and had a pretty full schedule myself) and a good deal for them as well (they could focus on their business and keep their heads above water academically).

    Maybe there’s a Georgetown student who needs the work. Especially these days, a steady $10-12 an hour/5 hours a week with no travel and a flexible intraday schedule would be pretty awesome for a busy undergrad trying to make ends meet. Kid’s ad does come across pretty heavy-handed, but cut him some slack; maybe this is the first time he’s written a job posting. (Of course, I’m not sure how you could drop off or pick up someone from work in DC traffic even once without blowing through the whole week’s work allocation…)

  82. This is America. We have rights. we abuse our free speech by blowing this out of proportion. We have a right to be dicks if we want, It’s called individualism. And if you don’t want to do laundry, DONT APPLY.

  83. As a recent graduate I would like to weigh in and note that A) Tools of this sort can be found nearly everywhere, state schools included, B) The point is that if this kid cannot handle his own personal upkeep at this stage in his life, then I fear for him come the day when he has fully depleted the trust fund – I mean really, my 17 year old sister manages a heavier workload than half the kids in the MSB and she still seems to have time to make her bed in the morning.

  84. Hey I’m going to let you get back to hating on Charlie in a second, but barack obama is one of the biggest douchbags of all time, of all time!

  85. There’s an employment agency by the name of Vesta Rose that I’m sure could set Mr. Cooper up with a nice assistant to help him out . . .

  86. And here’s his facebook profile, with photo: http://www.facebook.com/coopster301?ref=search&sid=5310970.2667347672..1

  87. enough people says:

    JOE – We are using our rights of Individualism to temporarily be dicks to people who are dicks all the time. Get it? This has nothing to do with rights.

    I also like how Katie Cooper uses legal speech to defend her brother over immaterial elements of peoples’ criticism: “Regarding the withholding, taxes, FICA, etc. Mr. Cooper can consider the assistant an independent contractor and negotiate the contract that way.”

    WHO EFFING CARES? Nothing is illegal about it what Charlie Crapster has done. Proving legality has nothing to do with his character (or lack thereof). I also like all the references to Capitalism as if THAT were in any way related to why people are hating on Mr. Crapster.

    The stupidity/arrogance of it all is what has this messageboard so hyped up. Mr. Crapster and his friends don’t even get that. Thanks for the entertainment folks!

  88. do people really have nothing better to do than to try and humiliate someone they don’t even know? yes, the ad was ridiculous, but who cares it doesn’t affect you, so do something productive with your time instead of trying to break someone down.

  89. no time = charlie cooper says:

    you probably should be looking for a therapist, not a PA

  90. Guys, we all need to chill out.. I used to know Charlie you could say…. let’s put it this way, he’s clearly over compensating for a lack of endowment. ..

    CHARLIE COOPER CAN’T KEEP IT UP

  91. [...] Charles Cooper is a sophomore at Georgetown University, a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity and part of the sailing team, Charles is also a giant, Grade-A, olympic-sized, self-important douche. [...]

  92. Just came here to reiterate that this guy is a massive douche.

  93. [...] Georgetown sophomore is hiring a personal assistant: As my PA you will receive an email once a day by 9:00 am with a task list for that day and a time estimate for each task. Important tasks will be bolded on the list and must be done that day (even though everything on the list should theoretically be finished on a daily basis) … [...]

  94. I am sorry, but if an employer pays a certain amount of money, by law they must file taxes on it, otherwise it is considered tax evasion. I’m sorry, but capitalism means something different from tax evasion.
    Further, I would like to note that I am incredibly saddened that the college “our future leaders come from” post with such poor grammar and often times incorrect spellings of simple words. I would also like to say that a comma does not make it okay to use run on sentences.
    By the way, Charles Cooper is a douche.

    -Stephen

  95. At least it wasnt at GW says:

    Oh god please post this to Digg so this kid can forever live in shame…this kid needs a reality check. You dont work in the financial services industry, you probably wish you did, but in reality youre lucky if you answer some phones and meet people richer than your daddy. The real irony of this is that you are probably something of a PA for someone, granted in the “financial services industry” who really doesn’t have time for such mundane nuisances as making your bed and being delivered to work…because the metro is really for us peons who wished we worked in the financial services industry. Jesus, another thing. This Charlie Cooper is CLEARLY not just in need of a PA…because he could clearly either ask around with any person willing enough to hang out with him for more than 20 minute increments for some help or get a girl friend to help him out for some extra cash. He either has no friends to ask for help (if seriously needed) or he wants this ad to not just ask for a PA–but to tell all of us that he is too busy for the BS activities that take up less than 4 hours for our week. His time is more precious than ours. SO much more precious in fact, that his is willing to give you this great opportunity to let you earn some extra beer money for doing his, since you are likely just sitting on your butt while he is out being a productive venture capitalist in the fast paced atmosphere of world finances. I hate this kid more than Bono from U2, Tom Brady, and my high school girlfriend who cheated on me after I gave her a $550 anniversary ring.

  96. Having worked in employment & labor law for several years with the largest L&E firm in the country(and we work for the employers, not the employees) assuming that Mr. Cooper’s pa position would qualify as an independant contractor is really overreaching. There are plenty of plaintiff E&L lawyers that would love to challenge that, if it were worth their time(recovery amount is WAY too small.) There are tons of suits challenging the practice of making employees independant contractors. Plus, even if he could successfully claim the pa as an independant contractor(which I doubt) he still has liability insurance, and he has to make sure the employee is paying in those taxes, especially unemployment and work comp. As far as the laundry thing goes, Mr. Cooper could negotiate a lower rate for that particular task, although I can’t imagine him finding anyone. And finally, as far as whether this ad makes him the consummate asshole or not is really beside the point, the real question is what kind of human at 20 years old(give or take a year)thinks that delegating day to day tasks will help him get ahead, or better, grow as person into adulthood. I’ll leave the answer to that for better people than I, because I already know what I think.

  97. bob the builder says:

    For all the attacks, you know you all wish you had a PA yourselves. Jealous much?

  98. This is easily one of the most obnoxious things I’ve ever read.

    God I hate the MSB.

  99. it’s up on digg – everybody vote!! this shit’s going all the way to CNN.

  100. DEAR CONCERNED, says:

    “CONCERNED” WROTE
    “If this really bothers you that much that why don’t you use your real name rather than be cowards who hide behind a fake name to make yourselves feel taller”

    why didn’t you use your real name? and yes please do drop out of the ROTC, and tell all your friends to drop out too! you aren’t doing jack shit to defend free speech. the ACLU takes care of that much better.

  101. Cornelius William Cartier says:

    Greetings,

    My name is Cornelius, the assistant to Mr. Cooper’s assistant. I would like to advise the commenters that I have just instructed my assistant to issue a cease and desist letter to the authors of this weblog post. As such, there is a possibility that Mr. Cooper’s law firm will be taking said authors to court. If this occurs, I am hereby notifying you that you may indeed be summoned as witnesses. Do not be alarmed, however, as I assure you Mr. Cooper is a fair man.

    Very truly yours,

    Cornelius William Cartier IV
    Assistant to Mr. Cooper’s Assistant

  102. Flip Wilson Phillips says:

    Dude, you don’t need an assistant. You need to move back home so your mother can have another crack at raising you correctly.

    Imbecile.

  103. College Grad says:

    I think this is GREAT. I’ve wanted the same kind of assistant for a long time now.

  104. Chris Freeland says:

    Take. TAKE the car for servicing!

  105. Folks,

    C’mon guys. You do more harm to the Hoya reputation w/ your name calling and under-informed disdain. I say this with respect, take Econ 101 (w/ Prof Webster if he’s still at G-town) and you will learn this:

    Despite your personal feelings about Charlie or his job posting, if he makes more than $12/hour, it is a sound economic decision for him to hire someone and free his own time to meet his educational and extra-curricular AND also work at his job.

    Many of you commenting are also grossly misinformed about sub-contractor tax law. If you haven’t filed a Schedule C or a 1099 in the past (and real ALL the IRS rules about the definition of an “employee” vs. a subcontractor) just don’t say anything. I have worked on both sides of that coin (paid as subcontractor at the same time as using subcontractors). It is the recipient’s responsibility to correctly claim and file his/her taxes. If Charlie pays them more than $600 in a year, Charlie needs to issue a 1099. Period. Then he’s met his responsibility to Uncle Sam. (My qualification to say this? After many years of filing Sched Cs w/o help of CPA, I finally got my chance at an IRS audit. I received a “No Change Letter” — that’s a 100% or an A+.)

    Finally, Charlie, if you keep someone in the Laundry Room for 1.5 hours, pay them for 1.5 hours. That’s basic respect, but also sound economics. If you’re afraid they are doing their own homework on YOUR time, plan out work they can do in the Laundry Room during that 1.5 hours. You are the boss, that’s YOUR job. If your time is valuable enough to hire someone, you do NOT have the TIME to nickle and dime your PA. You need to start building trust and respect so that when they turn in the time sheet, it only takes you 2 min to look at it for a reality check and pay them for the time they gave you.

    Rockin’ peace to ya,
    /k

  106. Do benefits include getting a mother’s day note?

  107. [...] for a personal assistant, taking “premature self-importance to a whole new level,” Vox Populi [...]

  108. Doesn’t Gtown have a laundry service anyway? Probably could have avoided this whole thing…

  109. This is amusing

  110. To Mr. Cooper:

    I sounds like there a a lot of smalltime thinkers posting here. They may be annoying but they make great employees. As a recruiter I think I should start considering Georgetown students for mindless work.

    Michael

  111. No Big Deal says:

    I don’t know why people are so upset about this. When I read it my first thought was I wish I had thought of it as an undergrad. If $250 a month can free up your time from drudgery, then why not? Is this guy a tool? Maybe, from the tone of the ad it is quite possible, not to mention the amount of people claiming this is the case. However, I don’t think the ad is anything other than a good idea. If you have the $250, wouldn’t you?

  112. Young Alum in TX says:

    Here are your mistakes, Charlie dear.

    Payment Calculation – Real personal assistants are compensated not only based on the tasks they perform, but the time they’re saving you. If your time is that important (so that you can do better at your job, make better grades, have more fun in college), pay the person properly. And $60 a week only equals $300 a month a couple times a year (when there are 5 Fridays in the month). You better not be a math or econ major.
    Estimated Hours – It takes more than 5 hours to drive around, do your laundry, pay your tickets, yada yada blah. Again, I hope you’re not a budding mathematician.
    Writing style – This ad makes you sound toolish, and that’s unfortunate. Maybe you should’ve hired someone to proofread and edit it. LOL

    That said, there is NOTHING wrong with hiring a little help if you think you need it. College students always need more of 2 things: time and money. So if you can save yourself some time by giving someone else some money (it sounds like he has more money than time), what’s wrong with that? Maybe if he didn’t have A JOB, he’d have more time to organize his closet and judge others online.
    This ad is funny. Laugh at the guy and move on with your life. There’s no need to wish him death or stalk him. You have too much time on your hands and too much hatred in your heart.

  113. I just saw ol’ Charlie’s photo. It matches his ‘tude. What a douchenozzle!

  114. Does no one realize this article has about the same journalistic value and integrity as FOX news congrats Juliana on wasting all of campus’s time with this pile of muckraking garbage.

  115. Anton, do you know what “muckraking” means and where it comes from?

  116. I.M. Adick III says:

    Mr Cooper’s resembles Mr. Adick (of Georgetown Heckler fame) in countless eerie ways, see below for evidence:

    http://www.georgetownheckler.com/collar.html

    Wearing Your Collar Down is for Poor People
    By I.M. Adick, III

    When my ancestors came over to this great country 400 years ago, they had a vision for a utopia, free from minorities, liberals, poor people, homosexuals, and immigrants. There are few today who share such lofty ideals, but we’re easy to find: Pastel polo shirts, loafers without socks, tucked-in shirts, but most importantly, collars up.
    Call me a douchebag. Call me an arrogant little cocksucking dickhead. Beat the shit out of me if I’m not with fifteen of my B-frat friends (unlikely). But just know this: I interned at Smith Barney this summer. Where did you work? A Blockbuster? That’s right you insignificant sack of dogshit; I’m going to be your boss. So take your t-shirt wearing, financial aid, blue-collar ass over to Blockbuster and get me a copy of Old School. Do you even own a tuxedo?
    Look at my girlfriend. You think she’d go for someone who didn’t have his collar up? I don’t think so. I remember the night I met her. I bought her so many $9 drinks she couldn’t even walk. So I drove her home in my BMW 328ci, but not before I took a few “liberties” with her. The next morning I took her to brunch and went to the mall, where I bought her some blouses. You assholes don’t know the first thing about being a gentleman. You probably don’t even know how to sail.
    When I get out of business school, I’m going to be making $120,000 a year. Add that to my trust fund, and I can buy a country club membership, a ski house, and still have enough money to go barhopping around the city in my designer clothes and shit-eating grin. Maybe I’ll offer you a hundred bucks to flip my collar up for me. I earned it you middle-class fuck up. I bet you went to public school.
    You’re so predictable. I bet I can guess your political party just by looking at you. My cronies and I range from elitist northern liberals to heartless conservative bastards. I’ve wasted enough time with you. Get some rich parents, an internship, and a pink polo with the collar up, and then maybe I’ll let you hang out with me.

  117. Okay–I get it that it seems quite outlandish for him to want a PA, but I understand. I work 40 hours a week, go to school full time and I volunteer for 6 hours on the weekend. I am incredibly jealous, and I could certainly use a PA. Instead, I do not have the resources for this. Nor if I did would I choose too spend on it this.

    That being said, I think it is wrong of you guys to harrass him like this. He’s just a kid really. Give him a break? It’s probably really embarrassing for him now, and you are going to make his life at school very awkward, and no one deserves that for posting an ad like this.

  118. I just wanna know is he in the financial industry or a bank teller,lol

  119. This kid doesn’t need a PA needs a doting girlfriend, or his mommy back.

    And $60/week = $300/month when there are five Fridays (pay days) – like Oct 2009.

  120. Danny A. L. says:

    Why do you people care? If he can afford it, and can give a student a little spending cash, then who cares? Is it jealousy that you can’t afford a PA in your adult life, let alone as a student? How awesome would it have been to have a PA while in grad school. I applaud him for thinking outside the box.

  121. [...] Job Description: [...]

  122. [...] week, Vox Populi beat this blog to the punch reporting on what may be the douchiest posting ever on the SEO job board, unleashing a flood of comments, including one from yours truly.  Now that this kid has been [...]

  123. [...] Vox put up a post about a Georgetown sophomore’s quest to find a Personal Assistant last Friday, we unwittingly released quite a firestorm—123 comments and counting, and links from [...]

  124. [...] Here are a few snippets from the job description/requirements taken from the Georgetown Voice: [...]

  125. What a hero. This is a great idea!
    Everyone in his right mind should do this as well.
    Pay other people to do shit while you can use that time to make a lot more money and educate yourself at the same time as the you can do much more chalenging things.

  126. Nice to see that Georgetown students continue to keep up the tradition of being complete douchebag asshats. You guys suck – f**king rich brats who couldn’t get into Princeton.

  127. How do you know this wasn’t some kind of prank? Just because it’s published doesn’t mean he’s actually looking for a PA–notice how there aren’t any kind of remarks in the blog post about its validity. It is really easy to post jobs on the HCC website.

  128. WOW: as a student at an ILL consortium institution slightly northwest of the ill-named “hilltop” this post confirms all the worst sterotypes about Hoyas. I have a lot of Georgetown friends working for RHO, Strikeforce, and DPA, so I know this doesn’t represent more than a miniscule fraction of Georgetown students. As an economics student I understand the argument for him using his money to make time. Just because something makes economic sense doesn’t make it non-douchebaggery (see: sweatshops, subprime mortgages). The gentleman in question is obviously an astute (not to say, craven) assessor of his and his colleagues’ relative value. I hope he did not have a political career planned; this situation just made him unelectable outside Martha’s Vineyard. While he was planning out his time and value, he should have factored in the value of such a sharp drop in his personal stock. Economics is greater than profit. Poorly played, Mr. Cooper.

  129. Not sure what an ignorant prick like yourself is doing trying to make analogies, but Fox News is #1 because it’s the best news on television, hands down. They make MSNBC look like high school journalism students. CNN is pure tabloid gossip.

  130. “Not sure what an ignorant prick like yourself is doing trying to make analogies, but Fox News is #1 because it’s the best news on television, hands down. They make MSNBC look like high school journalism students. CNN is pure tabloid gossip.”

    This is some textbook good blog trolling. If it had something hinting about how poor people were worthless it would be great trolling, though.

  131. kookykeen15 says:

    Cornelius William Cartier = best post EVER

  132. Definitely an IvyPlus move. Props

  133. Dr. Charles H. Cooper III says:

    Regards, All

    Please leave my son alone, you animals. These attacks on his character are edging towards criminal. Shouldn’t you be studying instead of slandering? You obviously don’t understand time management as well as Charles. I know Charles is too busy with his schoolwork and financial sevices industry job to worry too much about your criticisms.

    If you had gotten a Landon education like Charles, you would understand that his internship posting makes financial sense for both potential parties involved. In my line of work (former executive at a now defunct Fortune 500 company), this type of forward thinking would be rewarded with a hefty raise and maybe a promotion.

    I look forward to the day when Charles IV fills up his Mercedes at your gas station. Then you will wish you had been with him from the beginning. In the meantime, get a life.

    And have you seen the size of Howard Stern’s penis? Baba Booey! Baba Booey!

  134. What amazes me most about this post and all the comments is that no one seems to think this might actually be a decent gig. Broseph sounds like an entitled douche extraordinaire, but I’d take this job in a hot second. $60 a week? Shit, I made less than that working my ass off in retail this summer! Wash dishes or do laundry? I’d do the laundry (and dutifully steal all the change in his pockets, because unlike kids at Georgetown, I’M POOR).

  135. i know his ad makes him look bad but he is a really nice kid.

  136. Charlie is a nice kid, this ad just doesn’t emphasize his better qualities. He obviously made a mistake, but that doesn’t reflect on his character. Before you judge him, get to know him.

  137. Charlie may have been paying $250-300 a month for a parking space in DC. He may have figured that a better use of his money was to pay a PA to shuffle him to and from work. And then Charlie got to thinking and decided he could probably get some other chores out of the PA also. So instead of just picking him up in the morning he would also have his PA make his bed and throw a load in the wash before they headed off to work. And in the evening the PA could pick up some groceries on the way to the office.

    It seems like a perfectly logical way to make $300 more useful. Money is a tool, use it wisely.

    If Charlie were really good he could start a car sharing collective which encourages commuters to lease their car by the hour to city dwellers. WIth all the money he makes from leasing cars he could afford an apartment with an extra room for mommy to move into.

  138. I haven’t laughed so hard since I had the measles 80 years ago.

  139. 1. You’d all be lying if you are going to say you have never made the joke of “I could use a personal assistant”

    2. I bet most of you don’t even work part time… you just go to school and spend your parents money. Perhaps he’s paying his PA with his own money, Since he WORKS.

    3. I bet most of you are from McMansions and tote around starbucks cups while wearing matching Lilly Pulitzer all day – so get a grip

  140. Funny all these people defending poor Charlie & his Heroic Adventures in Free Market Capitalism! They don’t seem to understand that we, the critics, are also doing our natural part in the free market. To say that we should “not react” or “not apply for the job if we don’t like it” is absurd and weak-minded.
    (I could give an equally childish rebuttal by saying: “If you don’t like the article and/or forum reactions, just ignore it/them.”)

    Charlie, as a financial services professional, obviously doesn’t understand how labor intensive his proposal is for another person:
    Check & print Charlie’s daily email – 5 minutes
    Rearrange MY schedule to fit Charlie’s day – 5 minutes
    Walk (let’s assume) to Charlie’ dorm-room – 10 mintues
    Make Charlie’s bed & pick up dirty underwear – 7 minutes
    Bring the car around to the front door (so his dorm mates can see) – 10 minutes
    Wait on Charlie’s ass because he is late again – 3 minutes
    Drive Charlie out of Georgetown (I assume) in DC traffic – 20 minutes
    …. ops! I haven’t even dropped him off yet & my day is already done! Even if I lived on campus, it would cost more than an hour a day to take him to ONE place every morning and return his car.

    So Charlie obviously lacks a talent for forethought and budgeting skills. Also, the boy can’t add. I know of no month in which someone working for $60/week could earn $300 that month.
    Financial services professional? One who can not predict, budget or add? And people wonder why our economy failed…

    The “free” in free market can only function properly when the “consumers” freely discuss the pros and cons of a specific proposal. This includes the douche-baggery level of our Charlie and the failed competence of other market professionals like him who also lack basic skills as stated above. And mockery is a powerful tool in public discussion – think: Steward & Colbert.

    Therefore: MOCK ON, my brothers & sisters.

    - Sara

  141. I think people are just jealous that he can afford a PA. It’s not much different from hiring a cleaning lady, which many people do without being criticized. If you don’t like him, don’t hang out with him but there’s really no need to bash him here.

  142. I would have applied for the job if I were a freshman.

    A fool and his money are soon parted. If that money happens to end up in my pocket, so be it. The position looks like it paid a bit more than many of my early college jobs.

    For an extra $50-100, I’d even teach him about commas.

  143. Love the people getting up in arms about this kid’s innocent use of capitalism on here. Most of you d-bags that can even got to GTown can do so because your parents have a cutthroat capitalist outlook (ie, rich brats.)

    The ad is nothing more than a proposition. He is proposing a business deal with anyone who is interested. You are not his target audience, and there is nothing unethical about someone agreeing to his terms if they choose.

    So seriously, stop squawking like chickens, inside of 5 years most of you will be treading on the poor with equal aplomb and acting just as financially indignant.

    Morons.

  144. Concerned Citizen says:

    JaneHoya13 says: October 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am

    I think people are just jealous that he can afford a PA. It’s not much different from hiring a cleaning lady, which many people do without being criticized. If you don’t like him, don’t hang out with him but there’s really no need to bash him here.

    Do you know who hires cleaning ladies? People with JOBS, and KIDS. I have two internships, 15 credits, a girlfriend and social life – and somehow, SOMEHOW, I do my own laundry and get to work without someone DRIVING me there.

  145. Concerned Citizen says:

    “Tasks such as doing laundry that involve a lot of waiting around (time when you could be doing other tasks or doing your own stuff) will be counted for the approximate amount of time it would take to do the labor involved. For instance, laundry will be counted for half an hour even though a laundry cycle takes 1.5 hrs to complete.”

    Could you imagine – “Jobs like mixing cement that involve a lot of waiting around time …”

    “Jobs like policing our college campus that involve a lot of waiting around time…”

    “Jobs like teaching classes that involve a lot of waiting around time…”

    What an idiot.

  146. I trained this kid at Morgan Stanley, and we made fun of him every day! This kid is a loser!

  147. [...] to do his laundry, clean his closet, service his car, and do other random tasks. As seen on the Vox Populi blog: I am a Georgetown undergrad student and part time employee in the financial services [...]

  148. Having a personal assistant is fine, but people who hire personal assistants hire them for at least 20hrs of work per week. Plus, based on the task list, the work involved would be 20hrs or more per week. So shame on you for offering to pay less than the time and services required. If all you need is one hour a day to do some tasks, even the busiest people in the world fulfill one hour a day of mundane tasks. What a douche.

  149. Man I can’t believe how arrogant this kid is to want a personal assistant. There is just no way I would ever do something like that and as I can see a lot of people agree with me so now I feel like a much better person than this guy. I think we as a group can all say that we are just better than him at life. He is obviously such a loser that I don’t feel bad making fun of him. In fact it kinda makes me feel better about myself…he is such a dick….wow that felt so good. I bet that I am a lot smarter than him too and better at business. Man I am so glad I am not an arrogant prick like this guy – wait let me take that last part back.

  150. LogicalAnswer says:

    The smart entrepreneur out of you or unemployed genius will take the job and convince 100 other spoiled kids just like Charlie to pay him and make $$$$$ a month. I’m not sure why your parents send you to Georgetown if you cannot even create a business model out of this great opportunity. This could be the next on campus “Maids R Us” Wake up Hoyas.

    NB: I’m happy to accept a consultancy fee when you implement the model :)

  151. hahaha. Georgetown: Apparently as full of retards as any shitty city college in the country. Good job, academia.

  152. Wow. Just wow. says:

    To those leaping to defend this flaming douchebag on the grounds that “since he’s rich his time is worth more, time/money tradeoff”: thanks, I think we all understand the concept of division of labor. It’s just that there used to ALSO be a concept that even for kids from privileged backgrounds, college was a time to take a menial job and learn some humility, do your own damn laundry, live in a dorm instead of a mansion, and generally grow up and learn how to be a functioning self-sufficient adult.

    Most colleges pride themselves on being places where students from rich and poor backgrounds alike have a common experience, eat together, live together, and, yes, do laundry together. You are asked to treat other students as fellow scholars, not potential servants. Guess that notion didn’t quite get through to this little prick.

  153. A lot of guys in college just get to know a girls and have one of the ones they are not crazy about do the laundry for them. That’s what my brothers did. Not cool!

    Advertising for help is awesome, honest, and savvy. Focus on your studies and leave the BS for someone else to manage.
    Yes, there’s independence, growth, hard knocks…this guy said OK check, check, check in the first semester and ready to get down to business.

    Don’t hate the guy…don’t be jealous either (you green eyed monsters out there) Sure, in college I had to work two jobs and basically take care of ALL my stuff without care packages; but there were many times I would have wanted an assistant. If I could have afforded help; I would have found a helper. I admire the guy. BRAVO!

  154. Well Chuck, good luck finding a job when you graduate. No serious employer in the “financial services industry” is going to hire a recent grad for a 100-hour/week job if he/she can’t even fold his own laundry as an undergrad. But thanks for keeping the interwebs interesting.

  155. There was an ad for a personal assistant in the school newspaper at JMU last year. It was a sophomore as well. Kind of funny, everyone had a laugh (no one cared nearly as much as you do…it’s his life, let him live it). Anyways, we had an update in our school newspaper about a month ago, here’s the link:

    http://breezejmu.org/2009/09/21/student-ceo-teaches-others-how-to-network/

    So…as you can see, you might make fun of him now, but honestly, he’s probably gonna beat you in the long run.

  156. Jack the Bulldog says:

    Are you sure that Julia Allison, the embarrassing alum formerly known as Julia Baugher, didn’t coach this kid on his ad? Julia is notorious for working unpaid interns to the bone who then air their grievances on Reblogging Nonsociety.

  157. Katie Cooper:
    It is not an employer’s choice to declare an employee a contractor. If said employee is working for this employer as sole source of income or part time but other employment is in an unrelated field, said employee is common law regardless of the manner in which the employer chooses to categorize him.

    Also: Has no one noticed that he will pay an average of $60 per week which equates to $300 per month? 5 Weeks every month?

    Some financial services advisor that is!

  158. Perhaps it is satire or a big joke… and then everybody on this forum is more pathetic than Mr. Cooper.

  159. At first, I had a problem with this ad, and then I was like… ok, it’s his money, totally 100% his business. But the PAY for this job? Come on! This guy is getting an ivy league education and will be presumably rich one day, and he doesn’t think he needs to pay the person while they wait for his laundry to get done?!

    I get paid $12/hr to watch college level students complete study hall hours. I literally just SIT and do my own work. This employee will be doing Mr. Georgetown’s dirty work and get paid the same? Let’s be serious.

  160. I don’t see the problem: I would’ve jumped at this in a heartbeat when I was in college – would’ve beat the $47 post-tax I got for working 12-15 hours a week in the dining halls.

    Dude’s fortunate to be able to afford a personal assistant. So what? Good for him. There’s always people more or less fortunate than one’s self.

  161. As an alum, I’m embarrassed this person got into my school. Bad taste aside (and, let’s be crystal clear that this ad is in extremely poor taste and is an exhibition of a total lack of maturity and tact), as a 19 year-old Georgetown student, he should have the capability to multi-task. Perhaps our admissions team needs to rethink their acceptance criteria if Mr. Cooper can’t handle these simple everyday life tasks in addition to his internship and schoolwork.

  162. I find this disturbing for many reasons. Mr. Cooper is a sophomore in college (Georgetown, no less). It is time for him to learn to wipe his own a**. Anyone that would defend the need for a college sophomore to hire a personal assistant is probably him/herself living in a dream world as well. What does this say about time management skills and personal responsibility?

  163. I love how no one actually is commenting to make an intelligent point or discuss the issue everyone just wants to spout their disdain without even reading what others say or think I bet nobody even reads this comment…poop…see what I mean. Clearly no one cares about your opinions so save yourself the time and keep them to yourself.

  164. [...] Georgetown Voice’s blog Vox Populi reprints the ad in full. We offer some of the highlights here: As my PA you will receive an email once a day by 9:00 am [...]

  165. [...] it will be possible to work additional hours and/or receive bonuses at my discretion.”‘ Kudos to the Voice for exposing this [...]

  166. I get job applicants from guys like this all the time. And I promptly put them in the circular filing cabinet.

  167. FYI, this story has made it to the front page of buzzfeed.com. All these comments are hilarious. Keep it up Georgetown.

  168. Greetings from Fayetteville says:

    This post has made it to BuzzFeed. Prepare for the zerg rush

  169. [...] grads on food stamps, your dream job has arrived. Georgetown’s blog, Vox Populi, posted a classified ad last week conjured by a G-town sophomore who is apparently so monumentally important [...]

  170. To #153:

    The bottom line is that you think it is personally insulting to offer employment, and this Cooper kid does not.

    I am not a Georgetown student, but a loser old guy who saw this article on Google News and clicked through. From my perspective as someone who has been an employer, I would say this: All service jobs that are not professions are “demeaning” if you insist on looking at them that way. But they aren’t demeaning if you just get a grip. Personally, I think the pay being offered here is too low, but Cooper’s punishment for that should be that he won’t receive any applicants for the position. If he was paying $20 an hour instead of $10, he’d get some applicants and both he and his future PA would benefit from the exchange.

    And since the biggest thing people seem to be objecting to is the laundry, well – lots of people send their laundry out to be done. I dropped my laundry off at a laundromat that did laundry by the pound for years. Why? Because doing laundry yourself if you have the $10 to have someone else do it for you is moronic, that’s why. It’s like shoveling snow yourself instead of having a contract with a plow guy.

  171. Word of advice, not that more is needed, but, perhaps the reason he thinks he needs an assistant is because he’s clearly severely underestimating how long it takes to do various tasks. If you only allot one hour per day to this stuff, of course it’s not going to get done. I can imagine it being very overwhelming and difficult to manage if you don’t get why your laundry isn’t done, your closet isn’t organized, and you’re late for work when you’ve put a whole hour into it. But, then again, that’s part of what college is supposed to teach you– self sufficiency in a relatively safe environment. You’re supposed to learn how to do your laundry and mange mundane tasks now because it sucks so much more when you’re out of college and have to work full-time, have less funds (assuming your parents stop supporting you), and generally are more tired because let’s face it, your first job out of college is going to have a lot of bitch work in it.

    I understand the time/money paradox. But even if you decide to get a cleaning lady (who will charge $50 to come by and clean up for you ONCE, not every day), you still need to load the dishwasher yourself, because unless you’re paying their room and board, they won’t be there when dinner is done and the dishes are messy. I wasn’t good at any of this stuff in college, and my room and apartment were big hot messes. But that’s how I learned to take care of myself. Getting a PA just kinda abdicates that learning process as if it’s useless, but learning to do things you don’t want to do and more importantly learning to properly estimate the time it takes to do things are skills that only matter more when you’re someone’s boss. You will not be a good manager if you think your employees can do things faster than they are capable of doing them, or if you just have no real idea and they can milk you for the time.

    As far as his personal ass-hattery, I’m just going to assume this is a kid without much of a clue that when you ask someone to do something for you you are inherently saying your time is more valuable than there’s (which is also what you say when you are late to a meeting, etc), and felt a little out of control, and did what a lot of us probably wanted to do at some point. He took the initiative and put it out there. Taking that extra step. Problem is that there’s a reason to do this yourself when you’re young, even if you end up farming it out after you have kids and actually have no time.

    I’ve had a lot of interns pass through my office. Most of the time they do not realize how much easier college is than the real world. When you think that college is as hard as it gets, it becomes easier to justify. When you realize that even if that set up isn’t for everyone, you have an insane amount of free or at least FLEXIBLE time then, it seems more absurd. I mean, do you know how hard it is to keep your house clean when you work every day and are tired when you get home and you still have 2-3 hours, including cooking and the resulting cleaning required of cooking??

  172. MSB, what does that mean…..major shit ass?

  173. Also, front page Google News.

  174. Under a Bridge says:

    What was mildly amusing got pretty tiring about a third of the way through all this vitriol. You folks should check out 4chan. Maybe you could hire assistants to go to class for you and show up at Charlie’s door wearing Guy Fawkes masks. I’ve seen high school drop outs with G.E.D.s do their community colleges far more proud than any of you are doing your school.

    What might be the most pathetic thing of all is that this is listed under the “Spotlight” section on Google News. I can’t even conjure proper words to express my feelings on that.

  175. Rajiv K. Gandhi says:

    Mister Cooper must get his assistant now while he can. In India we have many people who wash our shirts in the Ganges River every day. So it is quite natural that Mr. Cooper would want to have someone flogging shirts against the rocks your Potomac River.

    However, I must advise you that your good fortune and those of Mr. Cooper may not last. Indeed, aw our economy in India continues to grow, we will be someday outsourcing our call centers to the United States because the United States dollar is continuing to decline in the world currency markets. But do not be alarmed, for you will all have jobs and the world will be a better place because your English is so much more understandable than ours. You will be able to continue your studies too, because the jobs are mostly at night.

    Perhaps you will have better luck in your next, Krishna be willing.

  176. Jonathanshrdlu says:

    Take this as being carved at the base of a Mayan pyramid: WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE LAST (or worst) OF THIS TREND. I’d wager some privileged high school students have personal assistants–they just don’t advertise for them.

    Maybe this kid IS overburdened. Rather than clearing his plate a little, he came up with a more novel solution: to delegate his life rather than his work. I wish I could pay people to sleep, eat, and go to the bathroom for me. I’d be interested to know how it works out for him; the terms of his offer don’t seem quite right.

  177. Big Bad Dom says:

    The boy’s got it all wrong. Why pay for these services when you can just find yourself a nice, little submissive woman to do all these things for you for free? Or a nice, little submissive man if he swings that way!

  178. Personally, I think he’s really smart. He has obviously calculated that his time is worth more than $12/hr. So he chooses to spend his time on other endeavors, and outsources those tasks that he doesn’t want to do.

    It’s his money, and his choice. I have a maid come in once a month to clean my apartment. I’m 29, single, no kids, and I work 50 hours a week. Yes, I have time to clean. No, I don’t want to. My time can better be spent doing other things. It’s a cost/benefit analysis and comes out in favor of hiring someone to clean.

    Good for you, Mr. Cooper.

  179. Scott from NJ says:

    While it may be unorthodox for a sophomore in college to seek a PA – so what? If he has the funds available and chooses to spend them in this way then more power to him! I see nothing wrong with someone spelling out the terms of a job offer (e.g., only paying for 30 minutes for laundry.) I am assuming he is attempting to weed out applicants that may not find his rationale acceptable and hence will choose not to apply. Had this not become such a major item of ridicule I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he would have had several applicants willing to work for $10-12 per hour. I guess we’ll never know. However, one thing I will wager is that this bold individual will be more successful than a lot of his peers that are trying to poke fun of him here.

  180. Nunya Biznuss says:

    “You’re naïve. From a business perspective, it *is* a brilliant idea to pay people as little as you can get away with. It’s called capitalism.”

    And you’re young and ignorant. From a Federal perspective, you’re *obliged* to pay hourly employees for every hour or fraction thereof worked. It’s called Federal Wage and Labor Standards. I’m sure you’ll learn about this as you gain some actual experience in the worlds of work and of managing employees.

    OTOH, if you want to avoid paying your employees for every minute they spend on the clock, then lay some salary on them.

  181. Nunya Biznuss says:

    “As a senior in the ROTC, it saddens me to see that i’m dedicating 8 years (even my life) to protecting people’s right to free speech and press, specifically when they use it to maliciously and conscientiously berate and harass someone they don’t even know and hide behind anonymous user names.”

    As a disabled veteran, I’d like to express myself by extending you a hot, steaming cup of GFY, ‘Colonel.’ If you’re so enamored of the free speech rights of your fellow Americans, then it’s high time you got used to actually seeing your fellow Americans avail themselves of them. Free speech isn’t pretty, and the First Amendment protects not only speech you agree with, but also speech that you hate and find contemptible. If you’re going into the Armed Forces, then you need to either find a way to integrate that notion into your character, or else STFU about it while you’re in the service. I can guarantee you that *your* First Amendment rights will be curtailed during your time in uniform — I know this from direct experience.

    “If this really bothers you that much that why don’t you use your real name rather than be cowards who hide behind a fake name to make yourselves feel taller.”

    Yeah, whatever you say, “Concerned.” Why don’t you strap on a pair of nuts and lead by example?

    “You’re all disgusting human beings.”

    You’re welcome. You know, I defended your right to say that. Now STFU and go defend *my* right to say what I like, FNG.

  182. Sparky McFadden says:

    Lazy fucker.

  183. Charlie — I really hope you read this. I’m not here to bash you, only to tell you that in comparison to the rest of your life, Sophomore year in college (even with a part-time job) is a cake walk compared to the rest of your adult life, such as having an actual job, having a family, paying the bills, etc. And none of that ever goes completely smoothly, and there will be plenty of speed bumps in your life that are much more stressful than 15 credits and an internship. You can’t be “mommy-ed” anymore. You’re an adult. You are privileged enough to not have life problems that other adults have every day (money, shelter.) I don’t care if you had a cleaning lady growing up or didn’t, or whether you went to a private school, it’s time to face facts and grow up a little.

  184. If I lived in your area, I’d be the perfect PA. Good luck to you and congrats on your innovation.

  185. I think it is great idea that this fella wants to hire a PA.

    If you read closely it said that someone in his FAMILY has Cancer and will be at the Georgetown University Hospital. Besides taking a Full load of classes, studying, working – he has not said in so many words BUT he will be at the Hospital!

    He is working and some of his money will pay for the PA. You never know – the people who ‘knock’ the idea might someday be working for him!

    He wants to hire an undergraduate – someone else that is studying but could use some extra money.

  186. After reading this article and many of these comments, i can safely say that you “Hoyas” are just as douchey, if not more so, than the undergrads at places like Duke. @RKRazdan and @Katie Cooper, you two are a prime example of what’s wrong with college kids (especially the rich entitled ones) these days. I pity the professors who have to suffer through dealing with you and the future employers who will be simply aghast at your huge sense of entitlement, lack of common sense and nauseating pretentiousness.

    Katie, you get extra points for trying to justify this kid’s actions using economics. That was so cute. In order for an employment offer to be effective, the wage for labor should equal or exceed the opportunity cost of giving up whatever else you would be doing otherwise. I seriously doubt that any of this little shit’s fellow undergrads would accept 12 bucks an hour for one hour a day cleaning up after Little Lord Fauntleroy.

    Sorry, I normally don’t go on these cliche rants about “kids these days” but you people just infuriate me.

  187. Not your Momma says:

    I think my problem with this kid is the fact that he feels that he is so important that hiring a PA is the only way for him to get an education. Seriously? There are people out there who work full-time jobs, raise kids and go to school full-time and this twerp can fold his tighty whities without hiring a PA? What is he going to do in his next few years when life gets harder or when the $$$ isn’t there to pay a PA? I think it is sad that anyone under the age of 25 would think of posting an ad like this. Wait until you get out in the real world champ. You aren’t going to be able to handle it if you can’t handle your own laundry without help. Grown up.

  188. I don’t think having a P.A. is wrong.. I know a lot of people with P.A. in college and even in High School.

    So, don’t be envious that this guy could afford a P.A.

    Mind your own business.

  189. I thought the ad was great! (also pretty damn funny)

    I see no problem with him hiring a PA. He’s paying over $50k a year for school, he should spend as much time as possible investing his time in the education he’s paying for. Any money he (or more likely his parents) invests on a PA will pay big returns if it helps him improve his GPA.

  190. Ah, capitalism. What a beautiful society we live in! As you can see: opportunities for all!

    Doesn’t this vignette make it just so self-evident that all men are created equal?

  191. Whoa! I can’t believe how rude everyone is being towards this guy. He obviously has his hands full working, going to school, AND let’s not forget, dealing with a sick family member. Anyone who has a problem with him is ridiculous and quite shallow.

  192. Father died recently says:

    I lost my father to cancer recently. If he was on campus and I had an extra hour a day and could spend even just 10 minutes of it with him, I could not put a price on it.

    Fault here lies with The Voice for their one sided presentation. As an alumni, I’ve had the Post article emailed to me from as far away as Australia. While The Voice may have enjoyed lampooning a fellow Hoya, the article has bounced around the world and soiled the school’s reputation.

  193. To all those who think the mere premise behind this isn’t wrong…

    I’m a Georgetown alum…

    I’ve got to say that i’m sincerely saddened to know that this kid will one day be able to join me as a Hoya alum. Reason being, the beauty behind making it into a school like Georgetown (and other fine institutions around this country) has everything to do with your ability to represent ourselves (as well as be) individuals who can juggle and succeed under the utmost pressure. Both academically and personally, character is all about being able to stand tall and weather adversities alone. Carry the weight of ailing parents, stressful job (which he seriously must not need if he can hire help), and most importantly, be able to succeed academically.

    I look at this kid and all I can say is this…he MUST not know the story of one of the greatest Hoya’s to ever grace the Hilltop – David Fajgenbaum. If you don’t know about him google him and his non profit that he started while being an undergrad. http://www.studentsofamf.org/National_Students_of_AMF-sid-11.html

    Sometimes the difficult road is the necessary road. the road where you have to do your own laundry, manage your own life, multitask, deal with death (or any other tragedy) and lastly succeed academically IS NOT too much to ask.

    Man up Mr. Cooper. Perseverance coupled with integrity is what it means to bleed blue and grey.

  194. Went to high school with the kid: to summarize him, he contributes absolutely nothing to the world. Not intelligent, not athletic, zero friends. Huge homo

  195. embarassing says:

    This kid’s dad is even more pathetic than Cooper. You can’t wait till he fills his Mercedes at our gas stations? Bragging about being an executive at a Fortune 500 company? Are you still like 16 years old? Anyways, I’d like to hear more about this “financial services industry position” that noone wants to put a title on…sounds like an intern to me.

  196. [...] Georgetown is full of Douchebags‘ [...]

  197. Wow, I can’t help but post after reading all the broke people cry and cry and cry because they can’t afford their own assistant. Awwww, poor babies. Get over it. You know why people hate good stuff? Because they don’t have it. You do your own laundry? I’m sorry, I’ve never done mine once in my life (don’t ask me how because I’m not about to tell). You don’t like that? What do I care you waste time doing laundry and I don’t. The joke’s on you.

    I’ve got a few points:

    1. “importance” – Where did this even come from? Are you kidding me? Did he say drop everything and work for me for free because I’m better than you? How does paying someone money to do things make you important? Um, does nobody work? Ever heard of the term “job”?! You are all just jealous; end of story. Of course, everyone that has the means to do this certainly didn’t earn that means with their own hard work, because no matter how hard you try you just can’t. Am I right? Thought so.

    2. He’s obviously more busy than all of you because you’re wasting time writing comments to something that doesn’t affect you in a single way. Go work, go to school, donate to charity, hire your own assistant, do something and get a life. How about spending time to make this world better? How about YOU go offer someone a job, any job. Yes, I’m joining in myself, but that’s because I have my own assistants. More on that in a second.

    3. He’s doing exactly what he should, helping the economy. Not only that, but he’s offering to help out a fellow student. This is a bad thing how?! Here’s my car, here’s some money, all you have to do is run errands. Wow, how much easier can it get? If you don’t want the job, don’t take it. Go work at McDonalds on a set schedule driving your own car and get paid less.

    Charlie,

    You are on exactly the right track. The more successful you are, the more people will hate you. Consider the responses to be a very good thing, trust me. You will undoubtedly be more successful than every one of the negative posters here. I’m sorry to hear about the cancer in your family (how everyone overlooks that is unbelievably disgusting). Granted, he shouldn’t even have to share that fact, but instantly knew there would be criticism from those that could only wish they worked hard enough to afford their own assistant. You call doing laundry growing up?! HA. Wait, you can afford your own assistant, but prefer doing laundry yourself. I can’t even begin to imagine why… seriously. There are droves of unemployed people, he’s doing someone a great service that will fit into someone’s schedule easily.

    Oh, I won’t be reading replies to this comment, so I’ll pre-empt the obvious comments. I’m barely older than Charlie, make a six figure salary, entirely independent since a young age, and I’m NOT from a priveledged family (quite the opposite actually). I went on my own with ZERO cents and NO help, and earned everything I have BY MYSELF. It’s called HARD WORK not laundry. As far as the obvious “grow up and do your own laundry” the easy answer is: shouldn’t you be busy doing your own laundry, kid? I’m going to go to the bar, and have clean clothes. Money talks, period. Sorry that your life is more boring. Not my problem. Maybe you should work harder?

    Just to throw a little more fuel on the fire to detract all these jealous people, and to everyone who thinks he “should get out in the real world” like the post above this, or “grow up”:

    Yeah, I’m in the real world. Paying someone to do work is the real world. Never having enough time is also the real world. My world is real: I don’t do laundry, I don’t clean, and I don’t cook. I’ve got time to work 50+ hours a week, enjoy myself, workout, spend time with family, and otherwise enjoy life. What more? I’m paying others bills that are very happy to have the chance. If you’re not one of them, great for you. People work for cents/a few dollars a day in parts of the world.

    Now go back to doing all the boring stuff in life, girls. I have things not to do.

    P.S. To the person who said he took “hours” to write his ad, please learn how to type. It took me 20 minutes to write this. To the person who wrote this heavily biased article, don’t quit your day job. Keep your judgemental opinion out of it; no one cares. He isn’t harming a fly.

  198. Concerned Hoya says:

    An excerpt from the Georgetown Mission:

    “Georgetown educates women and men to be reflective lifelong learners, to be responsible and active participants in civic life, and to live generously in service to others.”

    http://president.georgetown.edu/sections/governance/missionstatement/

    Apparently, they have a long way to go with Mr. Cooper.

  199. gtownalum09 says:

    I have seen some defenses of Cooper that I agree with for the most part, but I want address one other issue that attackers are sometimes bringing up.

    First, I will concede that the tone of the post would make me think to myself “haha this guy is tool.” I mean that’s the easy first response. But I would never go beyond just laughing about.

    Some have criticized him for the need to have someone do this type of work for him. “If he can’t do his laundry now, how could he ever get by in the real world” type of criticisms. I was a division I athlete at georgetown, volunteered for two different school programs in dc, and ended up graduating with highest honors. I was busy but i obviously got everything done on my own. I just didnt wash my clothes if I didn’t have time ha. While I was very successful in college, I acknowledge there are some practical life chores that I still am not good at. For instance, I am not great at networking professionally. I am working on it and my resume has helped compensate for that but I know I also have received help from professors and friends who have done some of this phone calling, small chat type of networking for me. I know I should get better at it, but the point is I know I have something important to offer in my field and sometimes we do just need a little help from other people because we all have different skills.

    While one more might have no problem with fitting the everyday chores into daily life, Cooper may really lose time because he is just not efficient in those areas.

    Most of us have no idea who Cooper is. I would never post something like that. Very very poor move. However, I do not think less of him for it. He just took some initiative in trying to make his life run more smoothly. If he has the money to do it, and the job benefits someone else, more power to him.

    He doesn’t have to be an incompetent ass to ask for help. He just knows what he needs help with.

  200. gtownalum09 says:

    Please excuse all the typos

  201. Brother Bluto says:

    This kid who has already shown he is a poor businessman as he has failed to capitalize on EXISTING assets at his disposal.

    Specifically, he is listed as a member of Zeta Psi frat. Therefore, he would have access to the maggots…er uh pledges to do his tedious chores for FREE! How did he ever overlook that possibility? Was he not forced to do some chores and make pizza runs at 3AM for his “brothers”? If he was not subjected to a little servitude as pledge and neither are the new pledges, then Zeta Psi is a just a sorority. If that is the case, she uh he should de-activate. Then he would have LOTS of free time. Therefore, a P.A. would be unneeded.

  202. My dog has more incentive than this worthless waste.

  203. This is great, power to him.

  204. [...] hard work of bloggers. Cooper was first reviled as a “prematurely self-important” by the blog of student newspaper the Georgetown Voice on Friday, and today the Post picked up the story in whole cloth, adding only an interview with Cooper and a [...]

  205. HE IS CREATING MORE JOBS THAN OBAMA!! ATLEAST SOMEONE IS HIRING, QUIT THE JEALOUSLY AND GET TO WORKING SO THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THE JOBS YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR. TIME IS MONEY, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS GUY THINKS THAT HIS TIME IS MORE VALUABLE ELSEWHERE, AND I APPLAUD HIS ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT. MAYBE IF YOU GOT OUT OF YOUR MARXIST CLASSROOMS, YOU WOULD SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF MONETARILY EFFICIENT TIME MANAGEMENT AND PRIVATE SECTOR JOB CREATION.

  206. This has made it to London. Who cares? They guy has more money than you, and he’s creating a job (albeit could pay more, but thats called negotiating). Come play in a world of 10% unemployment and see how many people would apply for that position. Go find something else to debate, you are smart kids, leave the guy alone. Let him make his own successes and mistakes. Really, with all that’s going on in the world, there isn’t enough perspective in academia to see this solely for the transactional activity it is, rather than portraying it as virtual slavery? You have all given him more PR than he could ever imagine, and someone just like him, in a very high position in the world could see him as an entrepreneuer (‘that guy’) rather than the prat you are portraying him to be. The malarkey and the rants, are all very amusing on this side of The Pond! How about getting back to what Georgetown is superior at? If you’re confused, that would be academics.

  207. Janett from Kentucky. says:

    I come from a back ground of poor down to earth people, and probably at one time would have been immature like most of you, and think he was just a spoiled rich kid. But now, I am a mother. I work a Full time job, raise my daughter, take care of my husband who is disabled, and I am finished up my degree at a local college. I understand how hard it is to do all this, and still maintain a little sanity. I have a 21 year old son who works but he also helps me out around the house as much as he can along with my husband.

    So what, this kid posted for a personal assistant. What’s the big deal. If it makes his life a little easier, I don’t see that there should be a problem with it. It sounds as if he is trying to concentrate on his grades and studying as well as his sick family member. The rest of you should just get over it and get over yourselves. At one point in my life, I didn’t like people who had more money than me just like most of you do know, but I grew up. You should try it. Makes life and living it a lot easier when you are grown and not sitting around dwelling on calling other people names just because they have an advantage you don’t.

  208. I am the mother with an 18 years going to a community college next year since we can not afford a state run or private 4 year college. He will stay at home and live, work at his local job. He will pretty much be paying for his own college. I think this Georgetown student need to learn what the real world is about for all the families making between 50,000 to 80,000 ( that is with two working parents) we get no help. So therefore my son will go to the local community college and live at home. I guess I may help out once in a while with laundry and trips to the store for him. p.s. I also have multiple sclerosos and my family still deals with all this. A parent from a middle income family

  209. He needs to join a fraternity and make use of pledges.

  210. Why are so many people trying to rip him a new one? He’s trying to balance a job that gives him real world experience with his education. He lacks time. He’s paying well above the minimum wage for unskilled labor. Maybe he’s from a wealthy background or maybe his job in finance pays him reasonable well. He lays out clearly what he wants, he offers use of a car, he’s upfront, he’s happy to let the person decide their own hours…

  211. Nunya Biznuss says:

    Idiots: “There are droves of unemployed people, he’s doing someone a great service that will fit into someone’s schedule easily.”

    And this is why *you’re* as much of a douchebag as Cooper. How come you haven’t cut a deal with him already to provide him with a subcontractor so you can get a piece of his sweet, sweet offer? Clearly, you’re falling down on the job.

    And as far as the I’m-not-coming-back-to-read-your-responses claim goes, of *course* you are. If you’re so important and consequential, you wouldn’t have bothered to — or had the time to — post here in the first place.

    Shove off, poser. It’s not jealousy to point out that someone’s a d*ckhead, and it’s no civic service to stand up for one like you are.

  212. In the old days, men would just get a wife. Now that we are modernized, we get PA’s! Hey I’d love a PA!!!

  213. What Cooper is doing is basically following author Tim Ferriss’ advice in “The Four-Hour Work Week.” Everyone said Ferriss was a genius and he made a fortune off his best-selling book. Why slam this kid for following that advice?

    Sure, his ad sounded a little snotty, but who cares? If he has the money and the opportunity and someone else has the time and inclination, great, they both win.

    I have to wonder if some of the people criticizing Cooper aren’t just jealous that they either don’t have the money or didn’t think of it themselves.

  214. [...] Vox Populi [...]

  215. George Garrol says:

    My comment on Gawker, who got all up in this guy’s business.

    What. Is. The Big. Fucking. Deal

    Let’s break down the People of Gawker vs. Georgetown guy.

    Verdict: Douchebag
    Evidence: Well, hmmm,

    - a Want-ad
    - Video from a trip to Mexico

    “Oh”,, you say, but there is more, haven’t you seen a picture of him wearing a rugby shirt?

    Heaven’s to Betsie, Gee-willickers, Oh, Saint Target, does this monster still walk among us?

    But what is his crime exactly?

    He wants to spend around $60 a week to help organize his life better?

    He has a job first of all, so why can’t he spend the money he earns as he sees fit?

    Oh, but wait, he probably got that job through his parents or something!!!!
    Holy Ipod, I am sure no Gawker reader, is willing to accept help of that kind. (And by the way did all of you outraged folk work in college? I went to a pretty typical Northeastern liberal arts school, and you know what, it’s not easy to balance work and school and it was about fifty/fifty as far as who worked and who didn’t.)

    “Yes”, you respond, “but he works in a financial services company!!! Why he probably took down the world economy with his own bare hands!!! He is probably running a Rugby shirt Ponzi scheme out of his dorm room as we speak.””” I get it, all financial services people are fire-breathing shylocks. But, just a quick question, where do you guys keep your cash exactly? Does the interest from your savings accounts go directly to fair trade cumquat farmers?

    “Well, we never said we were Communists, but paying someone to do laundry and chauffeur you around is just frivolous!!” Really? Are you sure?
    When was the last time you ironed your own shirts? Do you always make your own coffee or do you regularly pay people to make it for you? You never get chauffeured home by exhausted taxi drivers, while the subway is still running, after backbreaking nights of eating and drinking in restaurants and pubs, where poor brown people cook food for you and clean up your poorly aimed you know what in the bathroom?

    Would you vilify this guy if he spent the same $60 or $80 or whatever on an eighth of purple kush? Or tickets to the Artic Monkeys? Or flannel shirts? Or skinny jeans with faux punk belts?

    And, while I am not privy to know whether he got a response to his ad, I am sure students who can’t get by without a jobs (i.e. proletarian, whoops sorry, I mean privileged Gawker readers) probably took him up on his offer to pay them more than the minimum wage they would get chopping onions in the cafeteria for relatively painless work. (Although now he’ll probably take down the ad, you will be satisfied, and the work-study students who could have used that extra cash won’t get it.)

    But really, let’s raise our recyclable plastic cups of Red Stripe in celebration. Gawker and the people who dissed this dude (who are most certainly self righteous douchebags themselves) have managed to reach a heretofore unattainable level of Whiteness.

    georgegarrol.wordpress.com

  216. [...] Georgetown University sophomore Charley Cooper’s recent job posting has caused quite a reaction. [...]

  217. EVERYONE THAT HAS POSTED ABOVE IS BEING VICIOUS-
    before you take the time out of your life to BASH an innocent student, maybe you should take a second to consider what is going in his life/why he really sent this request: charles’ dad is terminally ill and only has a month or two left to live. The only reason Charles was asking for an assistant was to help him out with extraneous activities so that he could spend as much time as he possibly could with his dad before he dies. you guys should really be ashamed, and I think you all should apologize for your absurd insults to him.

  218. “Nunya” business (or whatever 13 year old slang you used):

    Wow, I don’t know where to begin kid. First off, please read up on “objective” versus “subjective”. I’m serious. You didn’t state ONE SINGLE FACT. Sounds like emotion, and jealousy to me. To demonstrate, let me state some facts (yes, they do exist):

    Yup I lied, I’m back. I actually figured there would be far too many comments to bother, but kicking my laptop out of sleep mode refreshed the page, and made your post pop right up. Why am I replying? Well, I’d rather take the heat than this guy any day. Consider me a flak jacket. I deserve it far more, plus I can handle it with ease. Surprisingly, your grammer doesn’t seem too bad even though you have no basis for an intellectual debate of any kind. Now, before I go out tonight and spend thousands let’s break down your comment and laugh at it, shall we?

    Did you seriously just ask why I haven’t cut a deal with him? Besides not knowing him, did I not just mention I’m not even in my mid-twenties yet and I make six figures, or is that too complicated? That is the dumbest question I’ve ever heard. Here’s a “I ride the short bus” sticker.

    Falling down? No, actually I can walk, thanks.

    Again, does everyone have some type of crush on the word “important”. I don’t get it. Never once did I say I was, you did. Go you! Ahem, important is a subjective word. The ones that use it, tend to be the one’s that think it (and are judgemental people). Obviously. Neither Charlie nor I used the word.

    Yes, I am a major prick. I won’t even begin to deny this. Why do you think I make so much? Nice people do finish last, in every single sense of the word. It’s a dog eat dog world, and that’s been seen far before human’s walked the earth. And no, the earth is not 5000 years old.

    Next, “consequential”. WHAT?! Seriously I’m left scratching my head. “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”. FACT. Welcome to the universe, obviously you haven’t met it yet.

    “Poser”. What? Who am I posing again? Does a single thing you say make sense? Honestly if you could write a single thing that made logical sense, I’d be impressed.

    There are droves of unemployement people – Uh, duh.
    He’s offering money to do work that a monkey could do – good for economy: fact.
    Again, without ignoring me in your response, what’s wrong with that?
    Do you negative little kids like being in a recession? How about I just keep all my money, don’t loan it out, and don’t hire anyone. Wait a minute… that’s why we’re in this mess. *facepalm*

    Now, I may check back because I think this is the easiest unintellectual bunch of little kids I’ve had the pleasure to laugh at, and because I may yet do a great job of distracting you from commenting about him and put the focus on me instead.

    It worked didn’t it? Your post was about me.

    One last thing. I wouldn’t “have the time” to post here?! Did you completely ignore the fact that I have multiple assistants?! HELLO?! Am I talking to myself?! I have all the time in the world, now go do laundry please.

    If you want a response from your next comment, reach down into that great intellect of yours and state at least one fact. Cmon, I know you can do it they teach reality in pre-school.

    Now, do I expect anyone to believe a single thing I’ve written about myself? Of course not. But, I do expect people to realize that attempting to pay people isn’t a bad thing, regardless of circumstance. If it’s a bad offer, then people will work somewhere else. It’s called Capitalism. Just because you can’t afford it, or you wish he shared your pain in doing laundry makes him a bad person?

    So this guy posts without hurting or identifying anyone, or even begun to insult anybody. He even posted far too much information about his family (which I’m sure he regrets wholely), and then both the author of the article and many commments all insult him. FACT. You can argue how much I disgust you all day long (and you’re right) but you can’t argue a single one of the facts.

    You want something to argue about? Here:

    “The word god is for me is nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.” – Albert Einstein

  219. nigga please

  220. [...] More at Gawker and Georgetown’s Blog Vox Populi. [...]

  221. Wow, and i dont even go to Georgetown.

    ‘Idiots’ i am just curious, how do you make your money??

  222. If this is the new way of embarrassing a respected university, its students, faculty and alumni, in so clearly and cowardly manner by posting your personal biasesGod help us all anonomously,

  223. Well, this is one less college I’ll apply to. Thanks for that.

  224. A. Bhwarjhti says:

    How sad that he’s not interested in acquiring the life skills necessary for adulthood.
    Hes going to need to learn how to balance work and “mundane” daily tasks!

  225. [...] Education 10/20/09—props for that excellent title, which I’m paying homage to herewith), “Georgetown sophomore seeks personal assistant, takes premature self-importance to whole new level” (Georgetown Voice 10/16/09), and the posts in Wonkette Jobs and on Digg. Georgetown University [...]

  226. Areya Trisen says:

    A Few Comments on Some Comments First:
    Katie Cooper 10-19-09 @ 2:09 pm
    You spelled “analyse” wrong while trying to go against the main current of opinions, just fyi.
    http://www.dictionary.com

    Lala 10-22-09 @ 6:12 pm
    Amen! Life’s tough…deal Cooper!

    George Garrol 10-23-09 @3:13 pm
    You asked what the big deal was? You have one of the longest comments on here!! Hello!

    That’s legitimate. Yes, I read the whole thing…in under an hour, and yes it was difficult, like trying to eat 6 saltine crakers at once, in under a minute, without a glass of water.

    And…
    Everyone who is defending this Cooper character and his character here is a question for you. Have YOU ever been someone’s personal assistant?? It’s not fun, especially with unfair wages. We are all people and the one who thinks they can spit on other people because he is better than everyone one else will get spat back on. They call it the Golden Rule for a reason. Not to mention karma’s a bitch! Am i right?

  227. Areya Trisen says:

    Dear Idiots 10-23-09 @ 1:31 am:

    First off, you spelled “priveledged” incorrectly. It is priviledged.
    Again http://www.dictionary.com
    How is it that you have a six-figure career but don’t know how to spell properly?

    How are you not from a privileged family and have never done a single load of laundry in your life?” I’m guessing your mommy did it for you when you were younger and your wifey does it for you now. Humm, those are both womenly figures so how about you do not degrade the whole female population by using the word “girls” as an insult.

    Impudent Idiot.

  228. Across the Pond says:

    Areya,

    Analyse is the British version of analyze. Both are correct.

  229. Areya Trisen says:

    It’s surprising, that this story has made it there. I stand corrected, thank you.

  230. [...] Schindler learned that one Hoya’s poor-form affects us [...]

  231. spec_laconic says:

    I’d like to personally thank this kid for making George Washington students look like less of a group of doucebags than you preppy Gtown kids. I didn’t think it was possible. Keep it up!

  232. [...] Friday, the Georgetown Voice blasted him in a post on their blog, noting that Cooper “takes premature self-importance” to a whole new [...]

  233. [...] Georgetown student, faced with a busy life and an illness in the family, did what anyone would do: put out an ad for a personal assistant. Ummm, wait a second. Is that the next obvious step? I don’t have the extra dollars to do [...]

  234. [...] Georgetown Voice posted the listing on its blog Friday under the headline, “Georgetown sophomore seeks personal assistant, takes premature [...]

  235. I think it sounds like a great idea!

  236. Nunya Biznuss says:

    Hey, “Idiots.”

    You have been both owned and trolled.

    “Wow, I don’t know where to begin kid.”

    Start with your poor spelling, grammar and punctuation, boy. And show some politeness to your elders.

    “First off, please read up on “objective” versus “subjective”. I’m serious.”

    For someone who claims to be wealthy, young and mega-gainfully employed, you sure do whine a lot. The more you bleat, the less-inclined I am to believe your claims.

    “You didn’t state ONE SINGLE FACT.”

    Of *course* I did. Reread, boy:

    And as far as the I’m-not-coming-back-to-read-your-responses claim goes, of *course* you are. If you’re so important and consequential, you wouldn’t have bothered to — or had the time to — post here in the first place.

    Done.

    “Sounds like emotion, and jealousy to me.”

    Sounds like opinion to me, and the desperate hand-waving of a troll. Don’t you have a bridge somewhere to live under?

    “To demonstrate, let me state some facts (yes, they do exist):

    Yawn.

    “Yup I lied, I’m back.”

    Of *course* you did, and of *course* you are. And you’re not at all what you claim to be. But you will come back and post again, and you will provide me with further entertainment, boy.

    “I actually figured there would be far too many comments to bother, but kicking my laptop out of sleep mode refreshed the page, and made your post pop right up.”

    Yes, you’re so important and well-compensated that you just couldn’t help yourself. And you’re also lying again.

    “Why am I replying? Well, I’d rather take the heat than this guy any day. Consider me a flak jacket. I deserve it far more, plus I can handle it with ease.”

    You don’t even have the wits to spell and punctuate correctly. And your claims of wealth and schweet employment have no FACTS to back them up. You’re just another internet fabulist. boy.

    “Surprisingly, your grammer doesn’t seem too bad even though you have no basis for an intellectual debate of any kind.”

    I’m older than you, better-educated than you, and — unlike you — *I* know how to spell “grammar.” So bring it on, child.

    “Now, before I go out tonight and spend thousands”

    Big Monopoly game planned tonight, I see.

    “let’s break down your comment and laugh at it, shall we?”

    Do your best, child.

    “Did you seriously just ask why I haven’t cut a deal with him?”

    Good god, you’re stupid. (eyeroll)

    “Besides not knowing him, did I not just mention I’m not even in my mid-twenties yet and I make six figures, or is that too complicated?”

    I count three non-sequiturs, one unwarranted conclusion and two outright lies in that sentence.

    “That is the dumbest question I’ve ever heard.”

    And the fact that you thought it was serious makes you even dumber, since you fell for it. (laughing)

    “Here’s a “I ride the short bus” sticker.”

    I think it’s great that they let short-bus riders sell those stickers. But I don’t think you make as much money selling them as you have claimed.

    “Falling down? No, actually I can walk, thanks.”

    Evidence in regards to that claim is as yet not verified.

    “Again, does everyone have some type of crush on the word “important”. I don’t get it. Never once did I say I was, you did. Go you!”

    I’m sorry. I *meant* to say that you were *impotent.* Thanks for letting me clear that up.

    “Ahem, important is a subjective word. The ones that use it, tend to be the one’s that think it (and are judgemental people). Obviously.”

    No fact, just opinion. Move on, boy. (laughing)

    “Neither Charlie nor I used the word.”

    Irrelevant. Move on, boy. (laughing)

    “Yes, I am a major prick. I won’t even begin to deny this.”

    Good plan.

    “Why do you think I make so much?”

    I don’t think you do. I think you’re outright lying. And I don’t think you will convince anyone otherwise.

    “Nice people do finish last, in every single sense of the word.”

    Yeah, like I need someone less than half my age to tell me that. (laughing)

    “It’s a dog eat dog world, and that’s been seen far before human’s walked the earth. And no, the earth is not 5000 years old.”

    It’s good to see that your education has taught you something (though you’re still obviously struggling with that sticky apostrophe problem). When you have some actual work experience under your belt, perhaps you’ll recognize just how much you didn’t know yet in your early 20s.

    “Next, “consequential”. WHAT?! Seriously I’m left scratching my head. “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”. FACT. Welcome to the universe, obviously you haven’t met it yet.”

    It’s apparent that besides not being able to spell or puncutate properly, you clearly have a substandard vocabulary. You’re not making *me* look bad, child — you’re just highlighting *your own* linguistic shortcomings.

    “Poser”. What? Who am I posing again? Does a single thing you say make sense?

    IMO, you are posing as a wealthy and well-compensated person of consequence. I do not believe that you are any of those things.

    “Honestly if you could write a single thing that made logical sense, I’d be impressed.”

    If you had a larger vocabulary and the ability to spell and punctuate properly, I might think it worthwhile to try to impress you. As it is, however, you’re not worth more than being made into an internet chew-toy for my amusement.

    “There are droves of unemployement people – Uh, duh.”

    I believe you mean *unemployed* people, nitwit.

    “He’s offering money to do work that a monkey could do – good for economy: fact.”

    Not necessarily. The attempt to create jobs is not axiomatically good. Fact.

    “Again, without ignoring me in your response, what’s wrong with that?”

    You’d need at least two more degrees to even begin to comprehend my answer, boy. You’re clearly not up to the intellectual task.

    “Do you negative little kids like being in a recession?”

    (pointing, laughing)

    “How about I just keep all my money, don’t loan it out, and don’t hire anyone. Wait a minute… that’s why we’re in this mess. *facepalm*”

    God, you’re stupid. If that’s what you think, then it wouldn’t be worth my time to explain the economic and regulatory bases of our present economic predicament.

    “Now, I may check back because I think this is the easiest unintellectual”

    (laughing)

    “bunch of little kids I’ve had the pleasure to laugh at,”

    I’ll have a Reuben and a cup of coffee, and hurry the frak up if you want a tip, kid.

    “and because I may yet do a great job of distracting you from commenting about him and put the focus on me instead.”

    AFAICS, you’re both douchebags. And I’ve got enough post for the both of you.

    “It worked didn’t it? Your post was about me.”

    A post about one nitwit does not preclude me from posting about another nitwit.

    “One last thing. I wouldn’t “have the time” to post here?! Did you completely ignore the fact that I have multiple assistants?!”

    Not a fact. You lie.

    “HELLO?! Am I talking to myself?!”

    Yes, you are talking to yourself. You haven’t got any assistants to talk to, and I think it’s pretty likely that no one else will talk to you either. (laughing)

    “I have all the time in the world,”

    Not with a job, you don’t. Another lie.

    “now go do laundry please.”

    (laughing)

    “If you want a response from your next comment, reach down into that great intellect of yours and state at least one fact.”

    No need. You will return, and you will post.

    “Cmon, I know you can do it they teach reality in pre-school.”

    Said the novice to the master of the art.

    “Now, do I expect anyone to believe a single thing I’ve written about myself? Of course not.”

    Good.

    “But, I do expect people to realize that attempting to pay people isn’t a bad thing, regardless of circumstance.”

    Who said that “attempting to pay people” was automatically a bad thing? In this particular set of circumstances, it simply isn’t a *good* thing. And the way he’s phrased his offer is violative of Federal law.

    “If it’s a bad offer, then people will work somewhere else. It’s called Capitalism.”

    No, it’s called abiding by Federal wage and hour laws. Capitalism doesn’t give you a free pass on violating laws.

    “Just because you can’t afford it, or you wish he shared your pain in doing laundry makes him a bad person?”

    Nope. Failing to follow Federal law in paying an hourly worker makes him a bad person.

    “So this guy posts without hurting or identifying anyone, or even begun to insult anybody. He even posted far too much information about his family (which I’m sure he regrets wholely), and then both the author of the article and many commments all insult him.”

    I’m sorry that my exercise of my First Amendment freedoms upsets you so. Why do you hate America?

    Grow up, kid. Getting criticized and slagged on is part of life. If you’re going to do something or say something where other people can see and/or hear what you’re doing, they’re within their rights to say what they want. And if you don’t want to hear or read what they have to say, then shove off. Otherwise, STFU and stop whining.

    “FACT. You can argue how much I disgust you all day long (and you’re right)

    You don’t disgust me. In fact, I think you’re pretty pathetic.

    “but you can’t argue a single one of the facts.”

    Already did, and already disposed of them. Come back and post again, child.

  237. Interesting.. says:

    Even if this kid is a D-bag or a Tool, WHO CARES. If he has committed any crime its that he is more entepreneurial than everyone else on this blog, and it seems to me you’re all just pissed you didnt think of it first. Coming from someone who has no extra money to spend as a young, under-employed, full time worker and grad student, I would love to be able to pay someone to do the mundane tasks of everyday life. Such as errand running and laundry, because god knows I never seem to have enough time to do them myself. I am assuming if someone needed the money bad enough they’d be happy to do laundry and pay some online bills. Although I might negotiate a little more than 12 an hour, maybe 15 and Id call it a day.

  238. [...] Ad for “Georgetown sophomore seeking a personal assistant“:   Apparently, the sophomore is looking for a fellow undergrad to be his bitch: to “organize closet / make bed / and do laundry” for him, amongst other tasks.  He’ll pay $12/hour, plus “bonus” opportunities.  This has got to be the most blatant case of sex-soliciting in DC since Larry Craig. [...]

  239. What a douche!

    “Tasks such as doing laundry that involve a lot of waiting around (time when you could be doing other tasks or doing your own stuff) will be counted for the approximate amount of time it would take to do the labor involved. For instance, laundry will be counted for half an hour even though a laundry cycle takes 1.5 hrs to complete.”

    This d-bag is wealthy enough to afford an assistant, but will only pay for part of your time to wash his shit stained undies. My hope for this jerk is that this follows his name on the internet for years and years to come.

  240. [...] between “wants” and “needs.” Take the example reported by the Georgetown Voice blog, of a second year Georgetown student who decided he would run an ad to hire a personal [...]

  241. By Bashing Mr. Cooper You are all committing a computer crime.
    ever heard of cyber bullying? guess what that’s illegal now, right up with texting while driving.

    whats so wrong with this guy offering a job?
    so the next time you waste ten minutes of you life that your never gonna get back keep in mind the more slander you type away, the bigger grave you are digging for yourself.
    i know what im talking about im a law student.
    and all of you are ridiculous.
    grow up and get a life. i wish i had a personal assistant. i organize a million things a year to benefit charities…does that make me arrogant for wanting a PA to help me help out DYING children.
    i think not.
    so that makes you all lack character, and common sense.

  242. charley is so hot

  243. This is too funny:
    ‘i organize a million things a year to benefit charities’
    ‘i know what im talking about im a law student.’

    Is this person serious? Who are these people and why are they at Georgetown with us?!!!! Also, I’m also pretty sure a law student, particularly a law student here, would actually be able to use grammar properly.

  244. Dear Rosio,
    Slander = spoken words; Libel = published, printed words. Guess you might have missed that day in law school.

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