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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Campus Plan: Transportation plans would send Dupont GUTS through Canal Road</title>
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		<title>By: Vox Populi » CAG President&#8217;s letter to DeGioia about the 2010 Campus Plan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vox Populi » CAG President&#8217;s letter to DeGioia about the 2010 Campus Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that was at the meeting where Georgetown said it was definitely rerouting GUTS buses through Canal Street, which the ANC has been demanding for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hoya2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoya2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we ignore the neighbors and attempt to drive them out. Louder and bigger busses, more routes down Q Street, and more public drunkenness. This is my platform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we ignore the neighbors and attempt to drive them out. Louder and bigger busses, more routes down Q Street, and more public drunkenness. This is my platform</p>
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		<title>By: kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so it doesn&#039;t look like there&#039;s any way that administration is going to stand up for its students... is there any way that they can make it easier for students? maybe if they finally get smarttrip-gocard collaboration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so it doesn&#8217;t look like there&#8217;s any way that administration is going to stand up for its students&#8230; is there any way that they can make it easier for students? maybe if they finally get smarttrip-gocard collaboration?</p>
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		<title>By: FactChecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>FactChecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Georgetown was inhabited by, of course, American Indians.  Then, in 1751, the white folk descended.  (So, in 1751, the Europeans were to the American Indians what the students are to residents.)  In 1789, Georgetown was incorporated as part of Maryland.  Pre-civil war, it had a mixed population of 75% white, a 25% black (1/3 of which were slaves; 2/3 free).  In the late 19th century, it was an upper class, cultural hub, but by the early 20th century it had become a much poorer neighborhood (some historians would say &quot;ghetto&quot;).  Then, from the 1930s on, it began to be the town it is today.  So, it&#039;s fair to say that, yes, Georgetown the neighborhood was here before Georgetown the school.  And, to be fair to the neighbors, for quite a while, the school was just a building or two and a handful of students, so moving here wouldn&#039;t be considered risky from a town/gown standpoint.  It&#039;s also fair to say, though, that it&#039;s easy to play the &quot;I was here first&quot; game, but only the Tohoga Indians can win that game.  Obviously, the make up of the neighborhood has changed throughout the years, which would argue that now it has changed into a neighborhood that is a hybrid of upper middle/upper class (mostly) white people and smart (albeit sometimes ill-behaved) students.  Both have fair claim, just like the slaves could claim it was their neighborhood and the poor could do the same in the early 20th century.  So, I&#039;d say that the neighbors have a right to demand that students should be held responsible for breaking local ordinances about noise, trash, and underage drinking.  But the claim of sovereignty from the annoyances of legal parking, legal busses, and the like based on &quot;it&#039;s our neighborhood not yours&quot; doesn&#039;t fly with me.  It is too the University&#039;s neighborhood.  It&#039;s BOTH OF OURS!  And, guess what, when and if the poor people, the black people, the slaves, and the indians come back, it&#039;s their&#039;s too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgetown was inhabited by, of course, American Indians.  Then, in 1751, the white folk descended.  (So, in 1751, the Europeans were to the American Indians what the students are to residents.)  In 1789, Georgetown was incorporated as part of Maryland.  Pre-civil war, it had a mixed population of 75% white, a 25% black (1/3 of which were slaves; 2/3 free).  In the late 19th century, it was an upper class, cultural hub, but by the early 20th century it had become a much poorer neighborhood (some historians would say &#8220;ghetto&#8221;).  Then, from the 1930s on, it began to be the town it is today.  So, it&#8217;s fair to say that, yes, Georgetown the neighborhood was here before Georgetown the school.  And, to be fair to the neighbors, for quite a while, the school was just a building or two and a handful of students, so moving here wouldn&#8217;t be considered risky from a town/gown standpoint.  It&#8217;s also fair to say, though, that it&#8217;s easy to play the &#8220;I was here first&#8221; game, but only the Tohoga Indians can win that game.  Obviously, the make up of the neighborhood has changed throughout the years, which would argue that now it has changed into a neighborhood that is a hybrid of upper middle/upper class (mostly) white people and smart (albeit sometimes ill-behaved) students.  Both have fair claim, just like the slaves could claim it was their neighborhood and the poor could do the same in the early 20th century.  So, I&#8217;d say that the neighbors have a right to demand that students should be held responsible for breaking local ordinances about noise, trash, and underage drinking.  But the claim of sovereignty from the annoyances of legal parking, legal busses, and the like based on &#8220;it&#8217;s our neighborhood not yours&#8221; doesn&#8217;t fly with me.  It is too the University&#8217;s neighborhood.  It&#8217;s BOTH OF OURS!  And, guess what, when and if the poor people, the black people, the slaves, and the indians come back, it&#8217;s their&#8217;s too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/11/13/2010-campus-plan-transportation-plans-would-send-dupont-guts-through-canal-road/comment-page-1/#comment-408566</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope the Park Service comes through with bureaucracy to gum up the works. Advocating for a route that burns approximately twice as much fuel, for personal gain, is morally reprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope the Park Service comes through with bureaucracy to gum up the works. Advocating for a route that burns approximately twice as much fuel, for personal gain, is morally reprehensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Sommer</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/11/13/2010-campus-plan-transportation-plans-would-send-dupont-guts-through-canal-road/comment-page-1/#comment-408560</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Sommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Park Service website says Georgetown community was founded in 1751, so no.

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc15.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Park Service website says Georgetown community was founded in 1751, so no.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc15.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc15.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: question</title>
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		<dc:creator>question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact Checker or anyone else-  Is Dave correct that GU was formed prior to Georgetown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact Checker or anyone else-  Is Dave correct that GU was formed prior to Georgetown?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/11/13/2010-campus-plan-transportation-plans-would-send-dupont-guts-through-canal-road/comment-page-1/#comment-408488</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...which is funny, because the neighbors are actually in our backyard.  we were here in 1789.. those rich folks kicked out the poor folks much more recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;which is funny, because the neighbors are actually in our backyard.  we were here in 1789.. those rich folks kicked out the poor folks much more recently.</p>
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		<title>By: gc</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/11/13/2010-campus-plan-transportation-plans-would-send-dupont-guts-through-canal-road/comment-page-1/#comment-408324</link>
		<dc:creator>gc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the concessions from the neighbor about all this?  Approving the plan?  Maybe forcing the many landlords in the area to clean up their houses, improve the condition and actually be practical places to live in?  Perhaps some of the focus should be there and not on having the university bend over every which way possible to accommodate this ridiculous NIMBY mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the concessions from the neighbor about all this?  Approving the plan?  Maybe forcing the many landlords in the area to clean up their houses, improve the condition and actually be practical places to live in?  Perhaps some of the focus should be there and not on having the university bend over every which way possible to accommodate this ridiculous NIMBY mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: CEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>CEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“There is a problem,” ANC Chair Ron Lewis said during the meeting. “And the problem is that people who come to your classes are jamming up our streets by parking. It’s not our role, it’s not our job to figure out the solution—it’s the University’s. But there is the problem. And unless the problem goes away, it’s going to be a problem for the plan.”

At least the ANC isn&#039;t contributing to an us vs. them mentality by claiming ownership of the neighborhood streets. How dare we go to school here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There is a problem,” ANC Chair Ron Lewis said during the meeting. “And the problem is that people who come to your classes are jamming up our streets by parking. It’s not our role, it’s not our job to figure out the solution—it’s the University’s. But there is the problem. And unless the problem goes away, it’s going to be a problem for the plan.”</p>
<p>At least the ANC isn&#8217;t contributing to an us vs. them mentality by claiming ownership of the neighborhood streets. How dare we go to school here!</p>
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