Burleith residents creating a database of noisy, messy Georgetown students

Spring is in the air, and Burleith residents are concerned that the noise from partygoing Georgetown students is, too. So the Burleith Citizens Association has offered new a way to combat students students’ noise and “nuisance properties”—a database where residents can make their complaints about noisy, unkempt, or trash-filled properties a ‘historical record.’

In an e-mail to the Burleith listserv, BCA President Lenore Rubino advised residents to call 911 in addition to Georgetown’s party-busting service, the Student-Neighbor Assistance Program, when they want to report a noise problem. (“MPD has always advised us to use 911.”) But she also said that residents should use a new e-mail address to make an additional record of the problem house.

“Document what happened by sending an email to the BCA at
burleith911@gmail.com,” she wrote. “This new email will enable the BCA to maintain an historical database of all calls and events.” The database, the BCA said, would give neighbors a way to provide additional oversight on noise issues when talking to the Metropolitan Police Department and the Georgetown administration.

“Try to include as much information (address, time, description of noise). While the BCA welcomes photographs and videos, please make sure you follow privacy laws,” Rubino wrote, recommending the Wikipedia page for “Photography and the law.”

Meanwhile, the University is preparing for Spring partying, too. On March 24, Anne Koester, the director for Student Affairs, sent an e-mail out to the Georgetown community reminding residents of SNAP’s services.

Photo from Flickr user Ivy Dawned used under a Creative Commons license.

30 Comments on “Burleith residents creating a database of noisy, messy Georgetown students

  1. Wow, 911 for noise complaints…

    Is there any way someone can set up a website tracking how many people have died because they couldnt access emergency services when phone lines were tied up by these yahoos?

  2. How about a database of their complaints that tracks how many are erroneous or exaggerated? One-for-one, stating explicitly that MPD or SNAP arrived and found two people talking in the backyard, as opposed to the 50 people partying story, or that the address reported was not a student residence, and so on, and so on. This could be hours of fun and enjoyment for the entire family.

  3. Fine by me. (Provided future residents don’t get penalized for whomever happened to live there last year.) Perhaps the neighbors wouldn’t be such jerks about telling us where to live and where to drive if we cleaned up our act a bit.

  4. I’m not sure how this could not result in future residents getting penalized for previous tenants, unless they plan on purging the list every year, which I doubt they would.

  5. Exactly, if they *don’t* purge the list every year, then 123 Reservoir might stay on the list, even if the person living there in September is different than whoever lived there in May

  6. “BCA President Lenore Rubino advised residents to call 911 in addition to Georgetown’s party-busting service, the Student-Neighbor Assistance Program, when they want to report a noise problem”

    This makes total sense! Residents certainly shouldn’t make any attempt to contact the offending students about a noise complaint. OF COURSE emergency services should be the first line of defense against loud college students!

    Hell, those kids are DANGEROUS!!

  7. How about just walking over, knocking on the door, and asking them to turn down the noise?

  8. Of course, there’s always fighting fire with fire and just flooding the e-mail box with fake complaints about residents of burleith. If the database has a ton of false positives, it could be rendered useless…

  9. Because nothing says “emergency” like a party that gets too loud. Obviously, knocking on the door and asking to be quiet is the best solution, but isn’t there some sort of non-emergency phone number that would not waste nearly as much resources? Like 311 or something?

  10. Yeah, the non-emergency numbers is called Student-Neighbor Assistance Program, or SNAPs. The entire point is to keep Georgetown kids from partying without having 911 called.

  11. It’s probably also worth mentioning to the neighbors that SNAP’s response time is faster than MPD’s…

  12. Awaken in middle of night by loud student party. Here is a multiple choice question for you. I Will:

    A. Get out of bed get dressed walk down street knock on door and be a parent and ask students to pwease be quiet. Afterall, its my job to remind students they are being too loud.

    B. Call SNAP. Because the student may get a call from ocsl asking what happened and if the student made a boo boo he/she may have to write a letter of reflection.

    C. Call MPD who will get the job done and may issue a 61d so they don’t have to come out next week

  13. D. Realize that college students are college students, and living close to a University comes with features that may not be attractive to residents outside the University community. Decide to relocate. Go back to sleep and and awaken the next morning with a newfound sense of purpose.

  14. When I lived off campus in Burleith, it was a nigthmare. Our neighbors were assholes and if our TV was on too loud, a DPS officer would turn up. There were four of us living there, all med/honor students, and not really the partying type, yet we were constantly visited by DPS or MPD. Complaints by our neighbors included:
    – noise level at 8 pm on Friday- we were watching a game or something
    – trash cans were not completely in our yard- we didn’t realize that three inches into the common alley was a nuisance- our mistake.
    – illegal parking- one car, two mopeds, and a bike in “one parking” spot seemed to annoy someone who didn’t live there or hindered their personal or common space- unlike the trash bin of course.
    – the best was our immediate neighbor who banged on our wall because he couldn’t hear his own TV one afternoon. We could hear his television, but he could not. So, a call to DPS to break up the conversation of 3 people in our living room at 4 in the afternoon. Classic.

    We didn’t stay another year there. Burleith was a nightmare. I understand some kids have parties, are rowdy, and messy, but non-student residents were just assholes.

  15. It would be much more useful to compile a database of GU students whose misplaced sense of entitlement has significantly hindered their subsequent professional careers.

    The CAG, I’m sure, would make a charitable donation to its maintenance.

  16. A Burleith resident accuses students of having a sense of entitlement. Pot, meet Kettle.

  17. Maybe there should be a list of grumpy Burleith residents who should get their house egged

  18. These residents are like the people who move next to a highway, then complain that the local government should build a sound deafening wall because the road noise bothers them. Ridiculous.

  19. I’m calling MPD next time I hear a baby or kid scream in the house next to mine.

  20. Hey kids, WAKE UP.

    911 is used for both NON-emergency AND emergency calls. Burleith is closer quarters that you are probably used to, so your noise has greater impact than in your mommy’s hood. If you disturb the peace at 2 a.m., why not face the consequences?

    Oh, and 311 is the number for city services, should you ever want your vomit-soaked futons hauled to the dump with tax-payer money.

  21. http://fems.dc.gov/fems/cwp/view,a,3,q,634357.asp

    Gee Burleith resident, it sure doesn’t seem like the official DC government endorses your use of 911 for non-emergencies. Now I know British English is a little different from American English, but doesn’t “Non-Medical Emergencies—Do Not Call 911″ mean the same thing for you Yanks?

  22. Oh, you clever, droll Brits. Had you been more thorough in your exploration, you would have found this on the very same dc.gov site: “311 is a toll-free number that allows people in the District to Columbia to request assistance with city services and police matters that DO NOT require police to respond to a location.” Your reference from the FEMS site addresses only medical events. If I applied your advice to, say, someone in the act of breaking into my car, then I would be calling 311 because is it a “non-medical emergency.” Sheesh. If someone is disturbing the peace in the middle of the night, call 911.

  23. Hey, tell ya what, next time you have a raging party next door at 2 in the morning, you call 311 and leave a message. We’ll call 911 and shut the thing down.

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  28. Simply approaching the rowdy students doesn’t work! They don’t respect authority. They ignore my polite requests, as well as those of the POLICE. Perhaps they’ll modify their behavior if the police begins to issue citations. That may be the wake-up call they need to realize that their actions have consequences and–more importantly–potential effects on their future employment. I’m fed up with having to turn up the volume on my television or radio in order to drown out the fraternity-type parties next door, or not being able to enjoy my patio because I can’t hear my own guests. Enough is enough!

  29. It is so telling how many Georgetown students on this response list are outraged by the prospect of not being able to throw insane parties or keep their voices at a respectful decibel. I’m a 29 year old college student and long-time Burleith resident, and I cannot fathom why people aged 18-35 insist on making our neighborhood their personal toilet. Spring and summer are the worst. Literally peeing on the front steps of neighbor’s homes, throwing unopened beer cans on our parked cars, tossing gum into our driveways, and the clinker: drunkenly toasting my mother on their porch and calling her a whore because she knocked on their door to ask them to pipe down. So no. Asking nicely does NOT work. Now that we finally have a law in place prohibiting disturbing noises between 10pm-7am, with a penalty of $500 and mandatory arrest, I can get some work done at home on a Tuesday evening at 8 o’clock. Thank god the Burleith citizens are standing up for themselves. We aren’t just here for 4 years and then move off to torture some other neighborhood. We live here for good.

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