Comments on: The Hoya writes to Media Board, plans to submit budget http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/ Mon, 09 Nov 2015 02:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.9 By: Vox Populi » Hoya delays independence again, WaPo doesn’t notice http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-506898 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:45:21 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-506898 […] On Tuesday night, Hoya staffers voted down a motion to pursue independence, yet again postponing a long-sought goal that’s been delayed in consecutive years by April Fool’s Day issue backlash and a poor financial environment. […]

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By: @Fact checker http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476168 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:12:29 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476168 Having read your comments here and elsewhere (and assuming you’re the same person), I might suggest that you think about changing your name from “fact checker” to something a little less dishonest.

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By: Fact checker http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476138 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:00:59 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476138 Just because the Hoya turns a profit does not mean they turn a large *enough* profit to go independent. And if the Hoya turns over the money they have at the end of the year to the Media Board, then the Media Board still wouldn’t need to request more money from GUSA because they never would have relinquished the money they got from the Hoya from the previous year. And I never said the Hoya wasn’t supported by the university.

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By: Sam Sweeney http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476124 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:28:30 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476124 @Fact checker: two problems:

1. Just because the Hoya “turns a profit” doesn’t mean that it doesn’t need money from the Media Board. All the money it receives it turns over to the Media Board, so it does in fact need money for each subsequent year. The reason why the Media Board requested less money this year is because the money the Hoya uses to operate each year does, in fact, come from the Media Board.

2. I’d disagree with the characterization that the Hoya “turns a profit” and therefore subsidizes other media outlets on campus. If it were as simple as that, the Hoya wouldn’t have any trouble going independent next year.

What that phrase really means is that the money the Hoya gives to the Media Board is usually (not always) greater than the money it takes from the Media Board. What this leaves out is the support the Hoya gets from the University (office space, utilities, insurance, legal support, equipment, etc.). When the cost of all of these things is factored in, it seems the Hoya is not turning a profit. (If it were, again, it could go independent.)

It’s true that the Voice (and, by extension, Vox Populi) receives support from the University. We’re grateful for it, and judging by the service that the paper, and in particular this blog, provides to the community, I’m guessing most students don’t mind the fact that GU supports us. But the notion that the Hoya isn’t likewise supported by the University (and therefore supports the other media outlets on campus) simply isn’t true.

I don’t think that the fact media outlets are supported by the University is a bad thing, given GU’s hands-off policy. A case could be made that it is a bad thing. But we are all supported by the University. So if you’re going to post under the monikor “Fact checker,” at least get your facts right.

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By: Predictable http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476123 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:28:17 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476123 The Hoya has been claiming that it was imminently going independent for at least six years now, probably longer. Every year it falls through. It’s even printed news articles in the past proclaiming that it was preparing for the final stages of independence.

This campaign is becoming laughable. Independence is to the Hoya what election controversies are to GUSA, reneging on commitments is to SAC, and the Independent is to itself: a perpetual failure and embarrassment.

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By: Fact checker http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476108 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:40:12 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476108 The Hoya turns a profit, and in fact subsidizes the other media outlets, including this one, so they shouldn’t need money from the Media Board. They said they submitted a budget, which does not necessarily mean they need money from the university.

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By: Sam Sweeney http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476067 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:19:56 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476067 Good questions, Matt. Either the Voice reported the incorrect amount that the Media Board requested earlier this year (I don’t think they did) or Barber’s claim that they requested the same amount is wrong.

Also, one other interesting thing about the letter: it mentions the cost of a “university licensing fee.” As of last fall, when I wrote a cover story about the Hoya’s bid for independence (http://georgetownvoice.com/2009/09/10/freedom-of-the-press/), Georgetown was going to give the Hoya their name (along with everything in their office not nailed to the floor) for $1. I guess this means that’s no longer the case?

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By: Matt http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2010/04/27/the-hoya-writes-to-media-board/comment-page-1/#comment-476065 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:06:59 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=16669#comment-476065 Um, seeing as the Finance & Appropriations Committee already had a budget summit to allocate money to the Media Board — and that 100% of the Student Activities Fee money has already been allocated — how does the Hoya propose to get money? I presume the Media Board already allocated their share? Or perhaps they’re going to have to dip into their reserves?

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