Students camp out for Snyder v. Phelps, meet crazies

On the Docket, Georgetown’s Supreme Court society, made its first trip of the semester to the high court this week. The group of ten students camped on Monday and Tuesday nights to secure seats for the oral arguments in Snyder v. Phelps.

After Fred Phelp‘s virulently anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church protested the private funeral of Marine Lance Corporal Matthew Synder, who was killed in Iraq four years ago, Snyder’s family sued the church for defamation and the “intentional infliction of emotional distress.”

As a “captive audience,” the family argues, and the church’s free speech should be limited, even though protesters stood outside of the 1000-foot radius established by Congress.

“No matter which way the court goes, it’s going to be a dramatic rewriting of the First Amendment, [which] the court has not categorically supported,” Parul Aggarwal (SFS ’12), On the Docket treasurer, said. “I believe that the captive audience theory applies even at one thousand feet.”

On Tuesday night, On the Docket met Glynis Bethel, who after inviting her family to the front of the line, informed the students, “This is Snyder v. God.” Later, she added, “Santa Claus is Satan.”

The concrete sidewalk in front of the Supreme Court is neither the warmest or softest surface for sleeping. Nonetheless, students placed empty pizza boxes on the ground and set up a cozy nest, complete with a wall of umbrellas to shield from sprinklers that went off at night.

At 5:45 AM, twenty-six members of Westboro Baptist Church arrived. Shirley Phelps-Roper, spokeswoman of the Church, spoke with Vox.

“The make-up of this court is unique—six Catholics and three Jews,” Phelps-Roper said. “And…priests rape children and the Jews killed Jesus.”

By 9:00 AM, approximately 120 people had gathered outside the Supreme Court. Only fifty people—including every On the Docket member—were admitted to the court to hear the hour-long arguments.

22 Comments on “Students camp out for Snyder v. Phelps, meet crazies

  1. “Priests rape children.” All of them, actually. In fact, I’m pretty sure Ignatius Loyola put “raping children” in the Spiritual Exercises. Sometimes I seriously wonder how people can say these things with a straight face.

    Nevertheless, coming up with a fair legal ruling against Phelps’s right to free speech in a public arena is a tall order.

  2. So… they camped out for two consecutive nights when they probably could have just shown up at 7:00 AM Wednesday?

  3. “And…priests rape children and the Jews killed Jesus.”

    Can’t argue with crazy, folks. Or…Can’t argue with crazy folks. The comma makes all the difference!

    There’s also a part of me that wants to know what else Phelps-Roper said that Vox put in ellipses.

  4. I wonder when their hate is going to blossom into suicide bombings and plane heists.

  5. They are just proffessional trolls. I’m sure that even they don’t believe the crap they spew. They just spew it, and when someone takes offense they sue that someone. The only sure way to get rid of them is if everyone just agrees to completely ignore them, because I[m pretty sure that even though it would be wonderful if the supreme court ruled against them, there are some pretty strong reasons why it won’t.

  6. GOD is good.
    “On the Docket,” were a bunch of rude and dishonest people who allowed others, outside of their group, to skip my family and I. I counted about 17 people who rudely kept skipping in front of my family and I. Instead of Parul Aggarwal, the Hindu b1tch!, telling a man that he could not skip and use their group as a way to get in front of my family and I, she allowed him to pretend like he was a part of their group. They took advantage of the other people in the group by leaving for long periods of time instead of making a trip to the bathroom or to get something to eat. When I saw that there was no conviction of the HOLY SPIRIT allowed to rule and the group refused to do what I felt would be the right thing by stopping others from skipping my family and I, I took a place in the front of the line. I kept my husband with me because I knew that he would spoil the kids’ fun and he had to continue to pump-up my deflating mattress. When we got inside of the Supreme Court building, the assistant told us that he wanted to keep our family together and this man allowed all of us to be in front of the line. To GOD be the glory. We had favor with GOD and man. Anyway, you people were not honoring GOD with your messages, so I know GOD wanted me upfront to preach the gospel.

  7. No God I’m aware of would want anything to do with Glynis Bethel.

  8. @Glynis Let me get this straight: you were upset that others were (allegedly) cutting the line, so you figured the appropriate response would be to cut the line, too? Now, I may be missing something here because your writing is pretty bad, but that’s what I gathered from your comment. Could you explain to me how that follows Christian values, or any type of moral values from Kant onwards?

  9. GOD is good.

    No, I was not upset that others were cutting the line. I was upset because the “On-the-Record,” group members were cutting the ling with the approval of the three who were in the line when we arrived. One of the three was Ms. “Parul” who kept allowing others to join in the group. One was a man who I don’t even think is even a part of the “On-the-Record,” group. When we confronted him about getting in front of my family with the approval of Ms. “Parul,” he refused to leave and this is when I decided to get me a choice spot in the line. The Christian values is that the Kingdom suffers violence and the violent takes it by force. My writing is not pretty bad. I am an English teacher. You fool!

  10. Glynis, your post needs some corrections. Here is the original text:

    “GOD is good.

    No, I was not upset that others were cutting the line. I was upset because the “On-the-Record,” group members were cutting the ling with the approval of the three who were in the line when we arrived. One of the three was Ms. “Parul” who kept allowing others to join in the group. One was a man who I don’t even think is even a part of the “On-the-Record,” group. When we confronted him about getting in front of my family with the approval of Ms. “Parul,” he refused to leave and this is when I decided to get me a choice spot in the line. The Christian values is that the Kingdom suffers violence and the violent takes it by force. My writing is not pretty bad. I am an English teacher. You fool!”

    Here are the corrections:

    ‘because the “On-the-Record,” group members’ -> improper use of hyphens, improper use of a comma

    ‘cutting the ling’ -> incorrect spelling of ‘line’

    ‘Ms. “Parul”‘ ->unnecessary quotation marks

    ‘to join in the group’ -> should either be a transitive infinitive (to join the group) or an adverbial particle infinitive (to join in)

    ‘I don’t even think is even a part’ -> redundant use of ‘even’

    ‘to get me a choice spot’ -> improper use of ‘me,’ should use the reflexive form ‘myself’

    ‘The Christian values is’ -> subject-verb disagreement

    ‘the violent takes it by force’ ->subject-verb disagreement, since ‘the violent’ is plural in Matthew 11:12

    Also the club’s name is On the Docket. I don’t see how you could have gotten that wrong, since you got it right in your first post. It’s also the first three words of this article. Based on my analysis, your writing is pretty bad.

  11. To Glynis,

    Hi, it’s Ms. “Parul.” I’m so happy you found this blogspot! It’s comforting to know that God has allowed you to spread your revolting, hate-filled message through other mediums. Dragging your kids to the Supreme Court and having them chant such enlightened sayings as, “God hates Muslims” and “God hates gays” at passing elementary school students wasn’t enough for you, was it?

    I want to set the record straight on several key points. First of all, you’ve accused me of cutting the line several times, while conveniently forgetting that you did it yourself — twice. Second, you’re forgetting that the stints you took off the line weren’t of any short duration — you were often gone for three or four hours at a time. I know this because I was waiting on line the entire time. I’m not accusing you of hypocrisy…

    Oh, wait. Yes, I am.

    To be perfectly frank, I want to get past this entire line issue. I had a wonderful time on the trip and I think my fellow On the Docket (the real name of our organization– really, Glynis, if you’re going to insult us, at least get our name right!) members did, too. I really don’t want my experiences on this trip to be tainted with memories of you.


    P.S.– By the way, your weave (or whatever that rat-infested nest perched atop your head is) is disgusting. You should get rid of it.

    P.P.S. — Oh, and before I forget — you’re an embarrassment to this country and to your faith. I don’t know if you remember hearing Shirley Phelps-Roper telling her associates to shut you up when you started chanting for the news cameras or not, but we certainly do. Nobody (not even the Church you support) wants to hear what you have to say. Why? You’re not a prophetess, you delusional idiot.

  12. GOD is good.

    Why is it, Ms. stereotypical, that ALL BLACK WOMEN have to wear “weave.” This is my real hair. I think that you are in error to think that my hair is “weave.” Your comments are racist.

    You should know about “rats,” seeing that your FALSE Religion worships rats; eat with rats; and sleeps with rats; therefore, you are contradicting yourself. If my hair looks “rat-infested,” then it should be held in the same high esteem that your people hold the “rat” population. I chose to take this comment as a compliment coming from you. The Bible speaks that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

    I don’t remember “hearing Shirley Phelps-Roper,” telling her cult member to shut me up, but I believe that she may have made the statement. I have never said that the Phelps and I were on one accord. They called me “goofy'; Shirley Phelps-Roper and her family are media hogs and she seems to be jealous of anyone else who gets to be in front of the camera or gives comments to toward any camera. If this is true (the comment made by Shirley), this is probably the reason why she wanted me to shut up (jealousy). The GOD hates you message is not an exclusive copyright privilege of ONLY the Phelps’ clan. We read the Bible which dictates that GOD hates gays who are fornicators (Romans 9:13 and Hebrews 12:16). They also believe that they are the only ones who will make it into heaven; therefore, what Shirley has to say about me doesn’t matter. therefore, you are not telling me anything new.

    My son says that you have crooked teeth. Get braces.

  13. GOD is good.

    Grammar Police.
    It is obvious that I could care less about my grammar. You are wasting your time. Thank you for the effort.

  14. I’m sorry, I just thought an English teacher who is defending her writing would care about her grammar. The flaw in my logic is as clear as your religious arguments, so I apologize.

  15. GOD is good.
    I am the black woman in the “black,” family. My name is Glynis Bethel and I am a preacher of the same type of Gospel message that shares who GOD loves and who GOD hates.
    The real issue here is the fact that GOD hates Mr. Snyder and his son. Snyder vs. GOD is the appropriate case title. The Phleps are simply sharing Bible scriptures in which you people tend to ignore such as: Psalms 5:5 and Psalms 11:5 and Hebrews 12 and Romans 9:13 and Hosea 9. These scriptures communicate that GOD HATES all workers of iniquity or sin. GOD also HATED Esau who was profane and as a fornicator. GAYS fornicate and this is why my family and I were chanting, “GOD HATES GAYS.” Also, GOD hates white, Spanish, Afro-American gays. There is no distinction to who GOD hates pertaining to this matter. Also, GOD HATES WHORES,” or women who fornicate.
    GOD is the one who killed Mr. Snyder’s son because he is hated by GOD for his decision not to serve GOD. The Bible states in Romans 10 that the wages of sin is DEATH. You can see the bitterness against GOD on Mr. Snyder’s face. The Bible states that we should commit no “murder,” and Matthew went into another country to help murder other people’s children and seemingly with his daddy’s approval. Now when the tables are turned, Mr. Snyder is the one who has to also deal with the death of his son. Mr. Snyder is suffering along with the Iraqee people. I would believe that he would feel indifferent about war and have a change of heart, but he continues to say that what his son was doing was honorable. Taking another person’s life is a SIN in the eyes of GOD. Isn’t it ironic how the Iraqee people have to deal with the American’s posting on the Internet how they have fought for “our country” (by killing your sons and daughters). They (Americans) hold high the American flag and make comments of how bad these people are and worthy of death. What recourse do these people have to sue Americans who brag that they kill for their country while in a public forum?
    The whole litigation or lawsuit is a lie. There was no protest at the funeral, but on a public slab of property. Mr. Snyder and his lawyers are a bunch of liars and criminal charges should be pressed against both for perjury and extortion. Mr. Snyder is illegally attempting to extort money from the Phelps because he is angry at GOD for allowing his ONLY son to be killed or destroyed (including any potential grand kids). Because the Phelps agreed with what GOD did and made their Religious speech public, Mr. Snyder wants to get revenge by causing an emotional and financial loss to the Phelps. What a sore loser!

  16. Oh man. This is some good material. Forget television and Jerry Springer. Let’s keep this crazy train rolling.
    So, I’d ask though. Say if your son turned out to be homosexual, would he then feel the fool fury of god’s
    mayhem? and yours?

  17. Prophetess, if you weren’t such an idiot, you’d be evil.

    Also, by what logic are you defending the Iraqis? I distinctly remember your husband’s shirt reading “God hates Muslims.” So if Mr. Snyder’s son deserved to die because God hates him (for reasons yet unspecified), wouldn’t YOU make the argument that he was doing God a favor by getting rid of Muslims, who are also hated?

    You have children, so unless you experienced immaculate conception, I’m pretty sure you fornicate, too.

    You also can’t deny that the protest was “at” the funeral. The Phelps admit that they were there only BECAUSE of the funeral. Hence, your idiocy.

    Please, just take your hatred back to ‘Bama.

  18. GOD is good.

    To answer your question, I suggest you visit my website and you will get your answer. I have already denounced my older son for being a wh0re and being a homosexual is to us in the same category of a fornicator or a person who has sex outside of marriage in which GOD hates.

  19. GOD is good.

    Lez, I am NOT defending the Iraqis people. I am only using them as an example of the hypocrisy of Mr. Snyder. Yes, GOD uses people to bite and devour each other. For example, Brian Nichols, who is wicked, killed a wicked judge. I believe the story even though I was not there. GOD used Brian Nichols to eliminate this judge just as GOD uses the wicked solders to kill wicked people.

    I didn’t fornicate. The Bible states that marriage is honorable in all and the wedding bed undefiled. Married people cannot commit the sin of fornication because the marriage, ordained by GOD, allows the two people to have sex.

    The protest was NOT “at” the funeral, but near the funeral event as reported by the Phelps. They admit they were there on the public property NEAR the funeral to preach the true gospel message of JESUS CHRIST. They practice their Freedom of Speech in voicing their views against both Mr. Snyder and his son, but in a public place.

    -Prophetess Glynis Bethel

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