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		<title>By: asuka</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/06/students-better-campus-life-would-improve-town-gown-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-509333</link>
		<dc:creator>asuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice research Matt, and like you said, &quot;USE IT&quot;.  Someone in the student body could make a hell of a name for themselves if they could successfully pull off a strong voter registration and get-out-the-vote effort.  Aren&#039;t you tired of being stepped on and insulted by these neighborhood nutters?  You&#039;re all smart, ambitious kids, so stand up and send a message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice research Matt, and like you said, &#8220;USE IT&#8221;.  Someone in the student body could make a hell of a name for themselves if they could successfully pull off a strong voter registration and get-out-the-vote effort.  Aren&#8217;t you tired of being stepped on and insulted by these neighborhood nutters?  You&#8217;re all smart, ambitious kids, so stand up and send a message.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/06/students-better-campus-life-would-improve-town-gown-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-509322</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just fished around for former bed # stats.  Note -- these date from 2008, not sure if they&#039;re 100% accurate, but they should be pretty close.

Alumni Square      348
Copley     320
Darnall     318
Harbin     440
Henle     459
Kennedy     305
LXR     289
McCarthy     289
Nevils     226
New South     392
Reynolds     206
Townhouse     288
Village A     494
Village C East     288
Village C West     391

That means, in the following districts, here are the approximate numbers of GU students living in them:

District 2 (Henle &amp; Darnall): 777 (2008 vote total for Ron Lewis -- 400/423)
District 3 (Harbin &amp; Copley): 760 (2008 vote total for Jeffrey Jones -- 140/140)
Distict 5 (LXR &amp; Nevils): 515 (2008 vote total for Bill Starrels -- 389/410)

Thus, for any voter drive, you&#039;d need a little over 54% registration from Henle and Darnall, around 18% participation in Harbin and Copley, and around 80% participation from LXR &amp; Nevils, in order to have enough votes to oust these three.  District 3, however, also includes Magis Row and basically the rest of the non-GU owned townhouses in Georgetown east of them below P and above N streets. Districts 1 and 2 have all the off-campus Burleith apartments.

So, if students were really organized, they would have a potential chance of picking up up to 4 seats on the ANC.  That&#039;s 4 out of 7 -- a majority.  That means student interests would be in control.  I think that, combined with the campus plan frustrations, could potentially get students to switch their voter registration to DC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just fished around for former bed # stats.  Note &#8212; these date from 2008, not sure if they&#8217;re 100% accurate, but they should be pretty close.</p>
<p>Alumni Square      348<br />
Copley     320<br />
Darnall     318<br />
Harbin     440<br />
Henle     459<br />
Kennedy     305<br />
LXR     289<br />
McCarthy     289<br />
Nevils     226<br />
New South     392<br />
Reynolds     206<br />
Townhouse     288<br />
Village A     494<br />
Village C East     288<br />
Village C West     391</p>
<p>That means, in the following districts, here are the approximate numbers of GU students living in them:</p>
<p>District 2 (Henle &amp; Darnall): 777 (2008 vote total for Ron Lewis &#8212; 400/423)<br />
District 3 (Harbin &amp; Copley): 760 (2008 vote total for Jeffrey Jones &#8212; 140/140)<br />
Distict 5 (LXR &amp; Nevils): 515 (2008 vote total for Bill Starrels &#8212; 389/410)</p>
<p>Thus, for any voter drive, you&#8217;d need a little over 54% registration from Henle and Darnall, around 18% participation in Harbin and Copley, and around 80% participation from LXR &amp; Nevils, in order to have enough votes to oust these three.  District 3, however, also includes Magis Row and basically the rest of the non-GU owned townhouses in Georgetown east of them below P and above N streets. Districts 1 and 2 have all the off-campus Burleith apartments.</p>
<p>So, if students were really organized, they would have a potential chance of picking up up to 4 seats on the ANC.  That&#8217;s 4 out of 7 &#8212; a majority.  That means student interests would be in control.  I think that, combined with the campus plan frustrations, could potentially get students to switch their voter registration to DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Muse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dizzy and others

Re Leonore Rubino :  some seem to misunderstand the way the real estate market works.  If I own a property which I wish to sell,  I hire a real estate agent (the listing agent), who works for a broker.  The broker lists the property on the MLS (Multiple Listing Service) to expose the property to all the real estate agents in the area.  The MLS agreements call for the split of the commission between the listing and selling agents on sale of the property.  

So there is nothing at all unusual for Ms. Rubino to list on her website properties which are &quot;listed&quot; by other firms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dizzy and others</p>
<p>Re Leonore Rubino :  some seem to misunderstand the way the real estate market works.  If I own a property which I wish to sell,  I hire a real estate agent (the listing agent), who works for a broker.  The broker lists the property on the MLS (Multiple Listing Service) to expose the property to all the real estate agents in the area.  The MLS agreements call for the split of the commission between the listing and selling agents on sale of the property.  </p>
<p>So there is nothing at all unusual for Ms. Rubino to list on her website properties which are &#8220;listed&#8221; by other firms.</p>
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		<title>By: Muse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Eileen

The BCA website says that a &quot;Household&quot; can join for $25 per year. So if you have a student house that probably comes to less than the cost of a round of beers at the Tombs.

I&#039;m not advocating a hostile takeover of BCA, but rather suggesting that if student residents of Burleith joined the BCA and attended their meetings, etc.,  it would be a positive step in town-gown relations.  Joining up would show your willingness to be a part of the community.  And, I might suggest, it is a lot easier to slam student residents when they aren&#039;t sitting in the room.

Step up and show your willingness to be a part of the community.  Volunteer to be on BCA committees.  It could be fun!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eileen</p>
<p>The BCA website says that a &#8220;Household&#8221; can join for $25 per year. So if you have a student house that probably comes to less than the cost of a round of beers at the Tombs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not advocating a hostile takeover of BCA, but rather suggesting that if student residents of Burleith joined the BCA and attended their meetings, etc.,  it would be a positive step in town-gown relations.  Joining up would show your willingness to be a part of the community.  And, I might suggest, it is a lot easier to slam student residents when they aren&#8217;t sitting in the room.</p>
<p>Step up and show your willingness to be a part of the community.  Volunteer to be on BCA committees.  It could be fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 00:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The open secret of DC student voter engagement is that DC sucks in terms of national elections. Students living in swing states -- or even in states where local seats are contested -- will have their vote count much more than in DC, which is reliably Democratic and has no voting seats in Congress. The challenge is convincing students to sign up to vote en masse here -- and getting students &lt;i&gt;specifically off campus&lt;/i&gt; to do so.

That having been said, in the last election, the representatives for ANC 2E01 (Burleith) and ANC 2E02 (Cloisters/Visitation area) and ANC 2E03 (West Georgetown -- outside the gates to Wisconsin) could be potential up for grabs.

Ed Solomon, 01: 263 votes out of 273 cast
Ron Lewis, 02: 172 out of 185 cast
Jeffrey Jones, 03: 133 out of 137 cast.

Unfortunately that was on an off-Presidential election year. In 2008, for example, the totals were:

Ed Solomon, 591 out of 609
Ron Lewis, 400 out of 423
(Write In for 03), 140 of 140.

Even GU&#039;s Rep, Aaron Golds, got 48 out of 52 votes (when GU&#039;s seat averages 5-10 votes, tops).

So I imagine 2012 will be difficult to beat with those numbers. 

&lt;b&gt;However&lt;/b&gt;: There&#039;s still some hope. 

You see, Georgetown University is not completely within the 4th District.  As a matter of fact, they&#039;ve parceled it up as so: http://anc2e.com/images/gusmdlarge.gif

&lt;b&gt;Henle and Darnall are in District 2, and Harbin and Copley are in District 3. Nevils and LXR are in District 5.&lt;/b&gt; District 5 is home to Bill Starrels, who won 154 out of 169 votes in 2010, and 389 out of 410 in 2008.

A sufficiently targeted drive toward students in those dorms, plus Burleithers, may stand a halfway decent chance of succeeding in registering enough people. 

It would require a hell of a lot of effort, but I think the anger generated by the neighbors this time around may just have tipped the students in the edge. Utilize it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The open secret of DC student voter engagement is that DC sucks in terms of national elections. Students living in swing states &#8212; or even in states where local seats are contested &#8212; will have their vote count much more than in DC, which is reliably Democratic and has no voting seats in Congress. The challenge is convincing students to sign up to vote en masse here &#8212; and getting students <i>specifically off campus</i> to do so.</p>
<p>That having been said, in the last election, the representatives for ANC 2E01 (Burleith) and ANC 2E02 (Cloisters/Visitation area) and ANC 2E03 (West Georgetown &#8212; outside the gates to Wisconsin) could be potential up for grabs.</p>
<p>Ed Solomon, 01: 263 votes out of 273 cast<br />
Ron Lewis, 02: 172 out of 185 cast<br />
Jeffrey Jones, 03: 133 out of 137 cast.</p>
<p>Unfortunately that was on an off-Presidential election year. In 2008, for example, the totals were:</p>
<p>Ed Solomon, 591 out of 609<br />
Ron Lewis, 400 out of 423<br />
(Write In for 03), 140 of 140.</p>
<p>Even GU&#8217;s Rep, Aaron Golds, got 48 out of 52 votes (when GU&#8217;s seat averages 5-10 votes, tops).</p>
<p>So I imagine 2012 will be difficult to beat with those numbers. </p>
<p><b>However</b>: There&#8217;s still some hope. </p>
<p>You see, Georgetown University is not completely within the 4th District.  As a matter of fact, they&#8217;ve parceled it up as so: <a href="http://anc2e.com/images/gusmdlarge.gif" rel="nofollow">http://anc2e.com/images/gusmdlarge.gif</a></p>
<p><b>Henle and Darnall are in District 2, and Harbin and Copley are in District 3. Nevils and LXR are in District 5.</b> District 5 is home to Bill Starrels, who won 154 out of 169 votes in 2010, and 389 out of 410 in 2008.</p>
<p>A sufficiently targeted drive toward students in those dorms, plus Burleithers, may stand a halfway decent chance of succeeding in registering enough people. </p>
<p>It would require a hell of a lot of effort, but I think the anger generated by the neighbors this time around may just have tipped the students in the edge. Utilize it.</p>
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		<title>By: asuka</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/06/students-better-campus-life-would-improve-town-gown-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-509269</link>
		<dc:creator>asuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 07:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An civically-engaged GU student body is the neighborhood&#039;s worst nightmare.  Register and vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An civically-engaged GU student body is the neighborhood&#8217;s worst nightmare.  Register and vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty you have to give the BCA money if you want to join.  I&#039;m also pretty sure that if enough students tried to join, it would find a way to keep them out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty you have to give the BCA money if you want to join.  I&#8217;m also pretty sure that if enough students tried to join, it would find a way to keep them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Muse</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/06/students-better-campus-life-would-improve-town-gown-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-509257</link>
		<dc:creator>Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad to have followed up on Commissioner Sticka and Ms. Brandeisky&#039;s  article and to see so many actually thoughtful responses.  I was following the Zoning Commission hearing last night and have only just caught up with the posts here.

I will respond to the specific comments when I get a chance.  There are some good questions and I&#039;d like to respond to them carefully.

In the meanwhile, I&#039;d like to comment on the last two posts by asuka and JS.  You can moan and groan all you want, but the best path to having your voice heard is to register to vote and elect candidates who share your concerns.  If you believe the numbers being used, if all the GU students who live in Burleith were registered to vote (or even half of them) then the GU students&#039; point-of-view would control not only the ANC seat, but also the Burleith Citizens Association.  Imagine that!  When students who reside in the neighborhoods don&#039;t bother to register to vote, it just underscores their lack of commitment to the neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to have followed up on Commissioner Sticka and Ms. Brandeisky&#8217;s  article and to see so many actually thoughtful responses.  I was following the Zoning Commission hearing last night and have only just caught up with the posts here.</p>
<p>I will respond to the specific comments when I get a chance.  There are some good questions and I&#8217;d like to respond to them carefully.</p>
<p>In the meanwhile, I&#8217;d like to comment on the last two posts by asuka and JS.  You can moan and groan all you want, but the best path to having your voice heard is to register to vote and elect candidates who share your concerns.  If you believe the numbers being used, if all the GU students who live in Burleith were registered to vote (or even half of them) then the GU students&#8217; point-of-view would control not only the ANC seat, but also the Burleith Citizens Association.  Imagine that!  When students who reside in the neighborhoods don&#8217;t bother to register to vote, it just underscores their lack of commitment to the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/06/06/students-better-campus-life-would-improve-town-gown-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-509250</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[asuka has it completely right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asuka has it completely right.</p>
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		<title>By: asuka</title>
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		<dc:creator>asuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The solution to this problem is simple: vote.  I&#039;m a bit fuzzy on voter eligibility in DC, but I all you need to do is provide a proof of residence.  If Georgetown&#039;s student body actually voted, none of this would be happening.  Georgetown&#039;s student body could change the face of DC politics, from the neighborhood gadfly organizations all the way to the council.  Hold registration drives and organize get-out-the-vote efforts on election day.  No need to protest, just show up at the ballot box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution to this problem is simple: vote.  I&#8217;m a bit fuzzy on voter eligibility in DC, but I all you need to do is provide a proof of residence.  If Georgetown&#8217;s student body actually voted, none of this would be happening.  Georgetown&#8217;s student body could change the face of DC politics, from the neighborhood gadfly organizations all the way to the council.  Hold registration drives and organize get-out-the-vote efforts on election day.  No need to protest, just show up at the ballot box.</p>
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