Comments on: ANC2E and BCA/CAG file more compaints against the Campus Plan http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/ Mon, 09 Nov 2015 02:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.9 By: Vox Populi » Vox winds down after a long semester, takes stock http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-527117 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:01:49 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-527117 […] made concessions on its 2010 Campus Plan proposal in an attempt to mollify the neighbors, but to no avail. This was the least surprising news of the […]

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By: Vox Populi » Tomorrow’s Campus Plan Hearing: What to Expect http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-519579 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:02:07 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-519579 […] to keep them from yapping. The university filed a request to have the community groups/ANC’s recent filings be dismissed on the grounds that, in June, the commission closed the record to everything not […]

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By: DR http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-519138 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:13:55 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-519138 Just when you think that Lenore Rubino, Jennifer Altemus and their comrades can’t do any more to show contempt for their neighbors, they find a new way. In this case, by demanding that the city ignore the concerns of anyone affiliated with an organization “supported by GU.” For example, they believe that the Duke Ellington School must reject any support or assistance from GU and its students, or risk being censored by CAG and the BCA regarding any testimony linked to its neighborhood concerns.

The BCA and CAG complain that Grace Bateman is a long-time activist and supporter of the University, then complain that Tim Moran has only lived in the area since August 2010. On one hand, they think the city should dismiss Moran’s concerns because he hasn’t been around for many years, while they should also dismiss Bateman’s concerns because she has been involved for decades.

Also, if being a graduate of GU disqualifies your concerns, then they should also dismiss any submissions from CAG, as it is led by Jennifer Altemus.

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By: triple hoya http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518826 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:54:09 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518826 PENGUINS

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By: Steven http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518653 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:12:06 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518653 Obviously I have a vested interest in the University. But how can a neutral party not take the side of the University when they have not shown a single sign of compromise during this entire struggle while the University has shown plenty? The rich pretentiousness is just unbearable. It’s OUR neighborhood, for both of us, not theirs exclusively. They think because they paid $1,000,000+ for their home we’ll never have a proper place in it, they’re never going to change their POV.

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By: Are they serious? http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518639 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:41:58 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518639 The “neighbors” lose all credibility with me (insofar as they ever had any) when they demand an end to Safe Rides. Should we close the hospital too, since it sometimes forces loud ambulances through Burleith? What about the student health center? People may walk through the neighborhood to get there. Oh and GERMS has to go — way too much noise when those ambulances go to help sick and injured students. Plus, the existence of GERMS just encourages students to drink more because they know that if they go over the top, there will be a student-run EMS to save the day.

Sometimes safety matters more than a little bit of noise. The neighbors just have to suck it up and deal with it .

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By: Wow http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518638 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:33:34 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518638 The point is that if you’re going to accuse the other side of being hysterical, it’s best to avoid analogies to Nazi Germany entirely, particularly analogies that don’t even make sense historically. (As Dizzy points out, nobody was expelled TO the Sudetanland.

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By: Dizzy http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518624 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:39:04 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518624 In the interests of historical accuracy: using a map of the annexation of the Sudetenland does not “compare GU students with the victims if Nazi Germany.” The majority of the ethnic German residents of the Sudetenland were quite supportive, even enthusiastic, about the annexation of their homes by Der Vaterland. Not surprisingly, the non-Germans didn’t take too kindly to this, and in the aftermath of the war the Czechoslovak government engaged in wide-scale ethnic cleansing (not genocide – they didn’t kill them)/mass deportation of ethnic Germans from these areas.

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By: Filip Buster http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518620 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:28:22 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518620 has [sic] perversely >>lead [sic]<< to

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By: @ Wow http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2011/11/11/anc2e-and-bcacag-file-more-compaints-against-the-campus-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-518615 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:00:10 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=32749#comment-518615 If you want to be taken seriously in the debate, be open to compromise as the university has made efforts to do so. Is this what the dialogue has become?

BCA/CAG: There’s too much noise with students walking through the neighborhood.
GTOWN: Ok, we’ll provide a shuttle that brings them through the neighborhood and back to campus.
BCA/CAG: No, those shuttles make too much noise.
GTOWN: Ok, how about an electric fence around the campus so students will not be allowed to go off campus?

BCA/CAG: There’s too much garbage in the neighborhood from students living off campus.
GTOWN: Ok, we’ll provide daily trash collection throughout the neighborhood.
BCA/CAG: Are you crazy? That’ll make the problem worse!
GTOWN: Ok, how about we have cleaning crews on every block of 20007 24/7 so as soon as a piece of garbage is dropped, it will be picked up?

Housing all students on campus will not help because students will continue to walk the streets of the Georgetown neighborhood. In my opinion, this just proves that BCA and CAG will oppose anything the university does, even if it is in response to what they have been complaining about.

I’ll be living in Burleith next year and I can’t wait to find out how bad the living conditions are as an off campus resident.

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