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	<title>Comments on: Campus Plan woes: GUTS buses route to Dupont extended, again</title>
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		<title>By: Broseph Stalin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broseph Stalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t we just tell the ANC to get fucked and do as we like, crotchety old neighbors be damned? Unless we decide to demolish the entire university and relocate to NE or Anacostia they will never be satisfied, and one begins to question the value of the &#039;good will&#039; we strive so intensely to garner when it affords no material benefits to the student body beyond continued the continued bitchings of overgrown children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t we just tell the ANC to get fucked and do as we like, crotchety old neighbors be damned? Unless we decide to demolish the entire university and relocate to NE or Anacostia they will never be satisfied, and one begins to question the value of the &#8216;good will&#8217; we strive so intensely to garner when it affords no material benefits to the student body beyond continued the continued bitchings of overgrown children.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with this. As long as Ron Lewis agrees to drive to West Virginia and then back down every time he wants to cross Rock Creek. Given that he&#039;s adding hundreds of man-hours of commute time each day, seems like more than a fair trade.

If the neighbors want students out of the neighborhood so badly, they&#039;re sure making it difficult. for us to leave.

@Ron Lewis&#039;s Withered Soul: Indeed. That was extremely insulting, especially given the implications that students weren&#039;t real people.

What&#039;s the excuse this time? Rattling wood-frame houses? Do any of the neighbors even remember why they want this?

_Theoretically_ restrictions on living off-campus should only affect the people with disciplinary/academic problems, which is at least in principle consistent with the fact - as the neighbors have conceded - that it is a small minority of students that cause problems. This is a way of punishing the other 10,000 people minding their own business.

And really, the only talking point we need is this: city buses travel the EXACT SAME routes. That&#039;s it. That&#039;s the ball game. There&#039;s no excuse for this other than blatant hostility towards students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with this. As long as Ron Lewis agrees to drive to West Virginia and then back down every time he wants to cross Rock Creek. Given that he&#8217;s adding hundreds of man-hours of commute time each day, seems like more than a fair trade.</p>
<p>If the neighbors want students out of the neighborhood so badly, they&#8217;re sure making it difficult. for us to leave.</p>
<p>@Ron Lewis&#8217;s Withered Soul: Indeed. That was extremely insulting, especially given the implications that students weren&#8217;t real people.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the excuse this time? Rattling wood-frame houses? Do any of the neighbors even remember why they want this?</p>
<p>_Theoretically_ restrictions on living off-campus should only affect the people with disciplinary/academic problems, which is at least in principle consistent with the fact &#8211; as the neighbors have conceded &#8211; that it is a small minority of students that cause problems. This is a way of punishing the other 10,000 people minding their own business.</p>
<p>And really, the only talking point we need is this: city buses travel the EXACT SAME routes. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s the ball game. There&#8217;s no excuse for this other than blatant hostility towards students.</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
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		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i fucking hate everything]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i fucking hate everything</p>
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		<title>By: Conspiracy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conspiracy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OR, they don&#039;t want the buses in order to force more people to drive to the neighborhood to get to work on campus.  That way, they can charge even more to rent out their parking spots....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OR, they don&#8217;t want the buses in order to force more people to drive to the neighborhood to get to work on campus.  That way, they can charge even more to rent out their parking spots&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrmania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hrmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The same people attended every meeting for the campus plan discussions. The turnout of neighbors was low. Very low. I would bet that the vast majority of residents do not support the complaints at the level portrayed by Ron and Jennifer. GUSA should mobilize the students to conduct door-to-door surveys of the entire population of the &#039;hood. Create questions that are unbiased, focused, and relevant. Get a statistically relevant sample, analyze the data, and refute what the small and over-involved folks perpetrate as &quot;truth.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same people attended every meeting for the campus plan discussions. The turnout of neighbors was low. Very low. I would bet that the vast majority of residents do not support the complaints at the level portrayed by Ron and Jennifer. GUSA should mobilize the students to conduct door-to-door surveys of the entire population of the &#8216;hood. Create questions that are unbiased, focused, and relevant. Get a statistically relevant sample, analyze the data, and refute what the small and over-involved folks perpetrate as &#8220;truth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: @GFK</title>
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		<dc:creator>@GFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 05:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, time to get creative. Students will continue to be students, nothing will change behavioral wise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, time to get creative. Students will continue to be students, nothing will change behavioral wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Vanya

That map is off - the agreement calls for all buses (except for the Wisconsin Ave. one) to use the Canal Road entrance, so the Dupont GUTS would enter/exit there, rather than on Reservoir, as it does now.

@Daveslow

Whitehurst works better than M Street, certainly, but the streets around Washington Circle and the Golden Triangle are badly congested, especially during rush hour.  K Street, New Hampshire, 20th - all are slow as molasses.  The L2 bus was so horribly slowed down by the New Hampshire Ave./Dupont Circle segment that it&#039;s been rerouted as of this week to stay on Connecticut and go underneath the Circle, bypassing it entirely.  The L1 routinely suffers massive delays due to New Hampshire/20th traffic.  And K Street is scarcely any better, especially once you&#039;re east of Washington Circle.

There may be fewer lights and stop signs, but the alternative route would takes the GUTS through multiple traffic sinks.  The Vern Express stays off of K Street entirely and skirts to the south of the problem areas I mentioned above.  It also maximizes use of the stub freeways in Foggy Bottom - not an option for a Dupont-bound route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vanya</p>
<p>That map is off &#8211; the agreement calls for all buses (except for the Wisconsin Ave. one) to use the Canal Road entrance, so the Dupont GUTS would enter/exit there, rather than on Reservoir, as it does now.</p>
<p>@Daveslow</p>
<p>Whitehurst works better than M Street, certainly, but the streets around Washington Circle and the Golden Triangle are badly congested, especially during rush hour.  K Street, New Hampshire, 20th &#8211; all are slow as molasses.  The L2 bus was so horribly slowed down by the New Hampshire Ave./Dupont Circle segment that it&#8217;s been rerouted as of this week to stay on Connecticut and go underneath the Circle, bypassing it entirely.  The L1 routinely suffers massive delays due to New Hampshire/20th traffic.  And K Street is scarcely any better, especially once you&#8217;re east of Washington Circle.</p>
<p>There may be fewer lights and stop signs, but the alternative route would takes the GUTS through multiple traffic sinks.  The Vern Express stays off of K Street entirely and skirts to the south of the problem areas I mentioned above.  It also maximizes use of the stub freeways in Foggy Bottom &#8211; not an option for a Dupont-bound route.</p>
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		<title>By: GFK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw the University, and screw the Neighbors. 
This means war. Figuratively, of course. It&#039;s time to get creative, folks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw the University, and screw the Neighbors.<br />
This means war. Figuratively, of course. It&#8217;s time to get creative, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Broya Saxa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broya Saxa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 01:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I ever grow up to be like these neighbors, any and all of you can slap me in the face and tell me to grow a pair. Seriously this is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. If neighbors can&#039;t deal with a bus driving by their house or college kids having fun, then they need move out to the middle of the forest somewhere where they can live and die alone and no one needs to deal with their ugly ass. This is America, and no one will ever be able to take my right away to shotgun a Natty, yell &quot;FUCK YEAH&quot; at the top of my lungs, and slam it to the ground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever grow up to be like these neighbors, any and all of you can slap me in the face and tell me to grow a pair. Seriously this is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. If neighbors can&#8217;t deal with a bus driving by their house or college kids having fun, then they need move out to the middle of the forest somewhere where they can live and die alone and no one needs to deal with their ugly ass. This is America, and no one will ever be able to take my right away to shotgun a Natty, yell &#8220;FUCK YEAH&#8221; at the top of my lungs, and slam it to the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Lewis's Withered Soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Lewis's Withered Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@public transit

A couple years ago when the neighbors started attacking GUTS (around 2007), one of the campus papers asked Lewis why they were fine with Metro buses. His answer, and I&#039;m not joking here, was that they were fine because residents use them. That&#039;s right, the neighbors now think they should be able to decide what travels on public roads based on whether they use them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@public transit</p>
<p>A couple years ago when the neighbors started attacking GUTS (around 2007), one of the campus papers asked Lewis why they were fine with Metro buses. His answer, and I&#8217;m not joking here, was that they were fine because residents use them. That&#8217;s right, the neighbors now think they should be able to decide what travels on public roads based on whether they use them.</p>
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