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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: Todd Olson accepts &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221;, excluding off-campus incidents</title>
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		<title>By: My Two Cents</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2012/10/18/todd-olson-accepts-clear-and-convincing-excluding-off-campus-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-588650</link>
		<dc:creator>My Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just putting it out there, but &quot;clear and convincing&quot; might lead to increased enforcement of the actual laws (i.e. few  students under 21 get caught for drinking in dorms among other things) that so often go overlooked on campus. So, while everyone debates whether or not the standard should be raised for off campus housing, I&#039;d be more concerned with whether the system will end up worse than it is now. It&#039;s unfortunate that the campaign for the referendum focused more on emotional appeal to the student body than critically engaging both sides of the debate. I completely agree that wrongly accused students are better off under &quot;clear and convincing&quot; but there is a lot of &quot;clear and convincing&quot; evidence of violations across campus that could easily lead to increased sanctions if RAs or other members of the university decide to step up enforcement. Just my two cents...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just putting it out there, but &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221; might lead to increased enforcement of the actual laws (i.e. few  students under 21 get caught for drinking in dorms among other things) that so often go overlooked on campus. So, while everyone debates whether or not the standard should be raised for off campus housing, I&#8217;d be more concerned with whether the system will end up worse than it is now. It&#8217;s unfortunate that the campaign for the referendum focused more on emotional appeal to the student body than critically engaging both sides of the debate. I completely agree that wrongly accused students are better off under &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221; but there is a lot of &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221; evidence of violations across campus that could easily lead to increased sanctions if RAs or other members of the university decide to step up enforcement. Just my two cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Firstly, Tatiana, I&#039;m sorry GUSA has disappointed you to the degree that you are commenting on Vox at 2:30am on Friday night.

Secondly, how exactly would you suggest GUSA more effectively leverage people power? The proper channels were used, then private pressure was applied, and then a public campaign was waged (referendum, open letter, etc). Recall that the Georgetown Voice editorial board, which I suspect shares much of your worldview, praised this method.

Thirdly, you appear to fundamentally misunderstand GCP. How can you make claims about its power structure when it has yet to meet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, Tatiana, I&#8217;m sorry GUSA has disappointed you to the degree that you are commenting on Vox at 2:30am on Friday night.</p>
<p>Secondly, how exactly would you suggest GUSA more effectively leverage people power? The proper channels were used, then private pressure was applied, and then a public campaign was waged (referendum, open letter, etc). Recall that the Georgetown Voice editorial board, which I suspect shares much of your worldview, praised this method.</p>
<p>Thirdly, you appear to fundamentally misunderstand GCP. How can you make claims about its power structure when it has yet to meet?</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Tatiana really suggesting that C+V haven&#039;t applied enough pressure? Or that they are insufficiently radical or pro-student?

Has Tatiana not actually noticed any part of this story until now? Because it certainly seems like she has missed all of it.

Without C+V (and, yes, their predecessors), this would not have happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Tatiana really suggesting that C+V haven&#8217;t applied enough pressure? Or that they are insufficiently radical or pro-student?</p>
<p>Has Tatiana not actually noticed any part of this story until now? Because it certainly seems like she has missed all of it.</p>
<p>Without C+V (and, yes, their predecessors), this would not have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: JustSaying</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustSaying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoah @Tatiana I didn&#039;t realize how brave you were until you told me. So, so brave...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoah @Tatiana I didn&#8217;t realize how brave you were until you told me. So, so brave&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
		<link>http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2012/10/18/todd-olson-accepts-clear-and-convincing-excluding-off-campus-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-588459</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that it takes a special person that can cut through their horse-shit and tell them what&#039;s good. Causing controversy and speaking truth to power is HARD, but someone has to be brave or, more to the point, persistent enough if change is ever going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that it takes a special person that can cut through their horse-shit and tell them what&#8217;s good. Causing controversy and speaking truth to power is HARD, but someone has to be brave or, more to the point, persistent enough if change is ever going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Behind the babble, it&#039;s clear that they&#039;ve just given up. Sending it to GCP and expecting anything to result is a completely futile endeavor. It&#039;s basically run by Ron Lewis, for goodness&#039; sake!

Per the second point, I think it&#039;s less a matter of playing a long game and more of having a stunted theory of change. Anyone who has worked on a labor organizing campaign, for example, understands that it&#039;s about leveraging your people power and not trying to buddy up to these clowns. The administrators DO NOT CARE about you, so you might as well stop trying to appease them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behind the babble, it&#8217;s clear that they&#8217;ve just given up. Sending it to GCP and expecting anything to result is a completely futile endeavor. It&#8217;s basically run by Ron Lewis, for goodness&#8217; sake!</p>
<p>Per the second point, I think it&#8217;s less a matter of playing a long game and more of having a stunted theory of change. Anyone who has worked on a labor organizing campaign, for example, understands that it&#8217;s about leveraging your people power and not trying to buddy up to these clowns. The administrators DO NOT CARE about you, so you might as well stop trying to appease them.</p>
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		<title>By: @Tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parse Clara&#039;s statement above. What do you think?

Also the number that you refer to is about to dwindle significantly and the number of incidents there already is below the population portion (10% of incidents). Look at the chess board and realize there&#039;s a long game to be played.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parse Clara&#8217;s statement above. What do you think?</p>
<p>Also the number that you refer to is about to dwindle significantly and the number of incidents there already is below the population portion (10% of incidents). Look at the chess board and realize there&#8217;s a long game to be played.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No real cause for celebration considering the number of people that live off-campus. Olson is essentially alleging that D.C. laws are insufficient when it comes to students. Did GUSA apply any pressure or do they just think we&#039;re idiots? You&#039;re not going to gain anything by buddying up the administration; your political capital is SOLELY derived from pressure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No real cause for celebration considering the number of people that live off-campus. Olson is essentially alleging that D.C. laws are insufficient when it comes to students. Did GUSA apply any pressure or do they just think we&#8217;re idiots? You&#8217;re not going to gain anything by buddying up the administration; your political capital is SOLELY derived from pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: not typical anymore</title>
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		<dc:creator>not typical anymore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@CWAH

Don&#039;t forget that this effort started years ago, with the idea to do a thorough review of the Code of Conduct starting in the second Angert/Kluger term and with most of the grunt work done last year with Meaney/Laverriere.  That said, credit to the current team in helping get to the finish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CWAH</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that this effort started years ago, with the idea to do a thorough review of the Code of Conduct starting in the second Angert/Kluger term and with most of the grunt work done last year with Meaney/Laverriere.  That said, credit to the current team in helping get to the finish.</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic With a Heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catholic With a Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not perfect, but hey -- GUSA actually got a real win for students Check plus, C&amp;V!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not perfect, but hey &#8212; GUSA actually got a real win for students Check plus, C&amp;V!</p>
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