Comments on: Prefrosh Preview: Drinking and buying alcohol in Georgetown http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/ Mon, 09 Nov 2015 02:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.9 By: Voxy does not roxy http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-846062 Fri, 30 May 2014 07:09:39 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-846062 Also, way to get Wagner’s in trouble, asshat.

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By: Seriously? http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-842658 Wed, 28 May 2014 03:08:10 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-842658 “Vox knows of many instances where students who do not understand when GERMS needs to get involved call GERMS and subject someone to having to deal with EMS/police and possibly hundreds of dollars of hospital fees, if they are brought to the hospital.”

The EMTs of GERMS are very professional, in constant consultation with M.D.s, and won’t transport a person to the hospital who is not in need of medical care. If you are taken to the hospital by GERMS, you need medical care beyond what GERMS can provide and those hundreds of dollars of hospital fees are well worth possibly saving your life.

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By: Ryan Greene http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-842553 Wed, 28 May 2014 01:11:45 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-842553 @Seriously? @More to the Point @Confused

Thank you for clarifying the point at which it is medically advisable for someone to contact EMS for help in the case of alcohol poisoning. Vox was under the impression that someone did not require EMS unless that person was unresponsive. The post has been updated to reflect the fact that a person who cannot hold their own head up or answer a basic question such as where they are or what year it is should have GERMS or another EMS called for them. Obviously, in the example that Confused brought up in which a person has split their head open and is bleeding but is still conscious, GERMS could be called to address their head injury. Vox’s advice applied strictly to alcohol poisoning. Vox was discouraging people from calling GERMS only in instances where someone was NOT dangerously intoxicated, if intoxication is, indeed, the primary concern with the student in question. Vox knows of many instances where students who do not understand when GERMS needs to get involved call GERMS and subject someone to having to deal with EMS/police and possibly hundreds of dollars of hospital fees, if they are brought to the hospital. That should be avoided if someone is not dangerously intoxicated. Once again, thank you for clarifying the point at which someone IS dangerously intoxicated and when GERMS should be called to help someone who is in danger. The post now reflects that standard of medical judgment.

@Confused

For the record, when you say “I have no idea how they let you publish this,” I just want to point out that most of summer Vox is written, edited, and published by yours truly. I didn’t realize that not being able to hold your head up or answer a question like where are you are sufficient grounds to call GERMS on someone who’s intoxicated.

@also

The post has been updated to reflect the fact that Thirds is gone. Thanks for pointing that out.

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By: Confused http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-842519 Wed, 28 May 2014 00:15:54 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-842519 “That means there’s definitely no good reason to call GERMS unless someone is unresponsive; i.e. they are passed out and cannot be woken up.”

Are you serious? So if someone is blacked out, stumbles down a flight of stairs, hits their head and draws blood, but gets back up, they shouldn’t call GERMS because they aren’t unresponsive yet? This is absolutely terrible advice. GERMS is there to help students with any medical issue, no matter how minor. I have no idea how they let you publish this.

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By: also http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-841916 Tue, 27 May 2014 14:50:16 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-841916 Worth noting: the aforementioned Thirds doesn’t exist anymore. Now it’s El Centro, a classy Mexican place.

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By: More to the Point http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-841823 Tue, 27 May 2014 13:22:47 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-841823 If someone can’t hold their head up or tell you where they are, you should call EMS. In more marginal cases, take the person home and keep them up drinking water until they sober up a bit, and then lay them such that they can’t turn onto their back and potentially choke.

Beyond the Student Code of Conduct, D.C. law also provides strong protections for being a good Samaritan. MPD will overlook illegal drug possession and serving alcohol to minors in cases where someone has called EMS on behalf of a person that is overdosing. Especially for heroin overdose, a few minutes can be the difference between getting life-saving narcan and turning into a vegetable.

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By: Seriously? http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/05/26/prefrosh-preview-drinking-and-buying-alcohol-in-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-841788 Tue, 27 May 2014 12:50:59 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=61237#comment-841788 Why is Vox discouraging people from calling GERMS? With the addition of medical amnesty to the student code of conduct, there is definitely no reason for anyone to hesitate to get medical attention if they feel it’s necessary. Discouraging people from calling GERMS when they have a legitimate medical reason to do so (which can be well before a person has “passed out and cannot be woken up”) is irresponsible.

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