Comments on: GUSA creates petition for greater transparency in the Foreign Language and Linguistics Department http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/ Mon, 09 Nov 2015 02:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.9 By: PM http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/comment-page-1/#comment-1265236 Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:36:43 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=67068#comment-1265236 As someone mentioned upthread, if you don’t want to contact the instructor, contact the department chair. That’s it.

As for the rest, you’ve made a more coherent argument than the petition, which seeks to have the department(s) tell students about the awesome training their Ph.D. students receive and to inform them about how to complain.

But what possible alternatives do you propose? Making Ph.D. students (who have real work to do) design 100-level language courses (which are basically the McDonald’s hamburger of higher ed — the same the world over)? Having different curricula for language sequences? Raising tuition still more to cover the cost of Ph.D. students who would be relieved of language instruction while also paying new instructional staff?

As always, students have the germ of a valid complaint, but no conception of how the institution they’re interested in actually works.

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By: Publius http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/comment-page-1/#comment-1264711 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:26:23 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=67068#comment-1264711 This petition was really a diplomatic way of saying the GU has a real issue, particularly in the Spanish department, with allowing some PhD students who are incompetent to teach classes. It seems to me that the argument he is making is pretty clear: When one of these instructors is incompetent, students should know who to contact to address the issue. This makes a lot of sense. For $65k/year, when an instructor is incompetent, students should have a method of recourse.

When an instructor *not professor* is incompetent, informing them of their incompetence does not seem like a solution. This petition was particularly diplomatic. Instructors in the Spanish department have practically no autonomy. They don’t write their own tests. They don’t create their own syllabus. It seems to me that students would be put into small language classes so the instructor can assess the level of the class and teach accordingly. This seems to be limited by the fact that instructors are given a standard syllabus that tells them what to teach from day one through the final exam, which they also don’t write. Why the lack of autonomy? Does the department not believe they are competent enough to instruct a course? And if so, why allow these people to teach anyway?

Don’t get me wrong, some of the graduate instructors are very good. However, this is not the case with many of them. Greater transparency will provide students with recourse and it may encourage those in charge to rethink and improve their instructor training program.

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By: Burr http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/comment-page-1/#comment-1264552 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:29:33 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=67068#comment-1264552 “According to Shinbrot, one of the major issues regarding transparency in the department is that if students have a problem with an instructor, suggestions about improving the class, or a question in general, they are not told who to contact”

Seriously? If you have problem with an instructor, suggestions for improving the class, or a question in general, then CONTACT THE DAMN PROFESSOR. And if that isn’t to your satisfaction, contact the department chair. I swear, some students just aren’t smart enough to be at Georgetown. How did this guy get in?

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By: PM http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/comment-page-1/#comment-1264449 Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:43:42 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=67068#comment-1264449 So, what exactly is this fellow’s complaint? That GU uses graduate students to teach classes? That’s pretty much the model that every peer university uses. The alternative, using adjuncts, might be cheaper (given the poverty wages GU pays its contingent instructional staff) or far more expensive (if those were filled by tenure-track or other permanent staff), so it’s not clear that the money argument that he seems to be making really carries any water.

Anyway, it’s par for the course that the only time Vox or undergrads in general notice the hundreds of Ph.D. (not Phd, Vox!) students and thousands of graduate students walking around is when some entitled princeling throws a fit.

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By: bulldoge http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2015/01/28/gusa-creates-petition-for-greater-transparency-in-the-foreign-language-and-linguistics-department/comment-page-1/#comment-1264448 Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:27:31 +0000 http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/?p=67068#comment-1264448 lol petition smatition

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